Hunting in the East forum gone.

1trkyhntr

1trkyhntr

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I appreciated the Hunting in the East forum. I am in Virginia and I made a lot of contacts there. The East forum was the reason that I posted on Predator Masters. I don't really have anything in common with the guys in the west. Their hunting style and ours is just too different. Thanks for having me as a member these last 14 years. I enjoyed it.
 
You can still use the Predator forum to connect. There were just to many different ones so some were combined but the posts are still here. That is no reason to leave.
 
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Just so you know, 1trkyhntr isn't the only one who is disappointed in this. Many of us have been members here for over a decade and we have been trying to work through this new format, without complaining much I might add. Some may choose to speak up and some may choose to remain silent, but remember that "Decisions have consequences", and when you get to make all the decisions you also get to take full responsibility for the consequences. I'm not leaving "yet", but I'm pretty disappointed in the way this has been pushed on us. Enough said I guess.
 
I do wish it was possible to please everyone. Making people unhappy surely isn't why we made these changes. For myself, I'm sorry the changes aren't to your liking, I just hope y'all stick around and give it a shot.

- DAA
 
Guys I had ZERO knowledge that the eastern forum was getting cut, I'm working in the "back room" to see what I can get done.

1tkyhuntr, DU, PaMick, Why, Alf and others I'm sure I've forgotten to mention are regular contributors to this site. You guys are spot on in the fact that hunting tactics are VERY VERY much different than the west. We are a minority here when it comes to leadership also so stick around and let's see if we can sort this out.
 
I really don’t understand the problem.
I have never hunted east of Oklahoma so I can’t say how different your hunting is.
The way I see it if I want to discuss hunting of any game in any state all I need to do is make a post with the heading of what area or state I would like to discuss or brag about.
I think you will find a lot more people will see the post and maybe we can all learn something or congratulate each other from different regions.
I promise it wasn’t removed to upset anyone.
 
I also think more people will see the coyote hunting in the east posts if they are in the Predator Hunting forum.

I hope that people are using the "What's new" button to see any posts that are new or just been replied to.
 
220_Swift said:
I really don’t understand the problem.
I have never hunted east of Oklahoma so I can’t say how different your hunting is.
The way I see it if I want to discuss hunting of any game in any state all I need to do is make a post with the heading of what area or state I would like to discuss or brag about.
I think you will find a lot more people will see the post and maybe we can all learn something or congratulate each other from different regions.
I promise it wasn’t removed to upset anyone.
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Exactly, you don't understand the problem because you and every other single person here lives and hunts in the west is totally different!

Instead of myself and several eastern members thats raised a concern convincing you guys the need for an eastern forum, please explain why it was created in the first place and why it would be detrimental?? Please explain how its any different than why we have all these subforums in this site.

Again, I agree that we needed to consolidate and or eliminate forums that aren't used or pertinent to predator hunting.

You western guys are advocating against something you know zero about and aren't considering what eastern guys want and are saying. Your also overlooking what eastern members that are very active here are asking for.

I'm done debating, you guys vote/do whatever you want but just be sure to OWN your actions and explain why you voted to get rid of it regardless of actual eastern members opinions.....
 
derbyacresbob said:
I also think more people will see the coyote hunting in the east posts if they are in the Predator Hunting forum.

I hope that people are using the "What's new" button to see any posts that are new or just been replied to.
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Bob they want separation, the same way night hunting is separated from day hunting, the same reason we have custom calls and commercial calls and electronic call forums, IT'S BECAUSE ITS DIFFERENT!!

And yes sir, the new alerts are really nice!
 
I’m in East Texas and it looks just like everything east of here. I have hunted Missouri, Mississippi and Eastern Kansas and been to a lot of eastern states that look about the same.

I see no reason to segregate.
 
Kino M said:
Exactly, you don't understand the problem because you and every other single person here besides myself lives and hunts in the west!
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Exaggerating much?


Kino M said:
please explain why it was created in the first place and why it would be detrimental??
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I'm not completely sure why it was created in the first place. But I believe it was because this site had so much activity that posts in the Predator Hunting forum were scrolling off the first page in less than a day. So subforums were created for narrow interests. That doesn't come close to happening anymore. The reasons for this move have been explained to you multiple times. I'm fine with you disagreeing with it. Disagreement is way underrated. But I'm really not understanding why you continue to claim ignorance.

The reasoning, is this. The big majority of members and visitors here never look in the Hunting in the East forum. So they never see the posts. Putting them in the Predator Hunting forum means that same big majority of member and guests will see those posts. And they'll respond to them. And learn from them. And make new connections with members they hardly even knew existed because they were sequestered in the old Hunting in the East forum. For the overall growth and health of predatormasters, this is all good. More people reading the posts. More interactions. More learning. Etc., etc., etc. And the forum is just easier to navigate, period.

Like I said though, disagreement is underrated. So I'd encourage any and all to feel free to disagree.

Stop acting like this was sprung on you though. You and every other Mod and BoD on this site had two full weeks of advance notice it was going to happen. If you weren't paying attention or didn't understand, that's fine. But quit with the whining like nobody told you. You should have asked questions if you didn't understand what was said.

"You guys are advocating against something you know zero about and aren't considering what eastern guys want and are saying. "

Nobody is advocating "against" ANYTHING! For crying out loud... All anyone is doing is trying to bring new life to this forum. Which I'm not going to say you "know zero about" but I don't think you know much about. Again, disagree with the move all you want, I'm all ears. But stop with the nonsense and whining. Talk about what really happened and what really should happen. Nobody is against listening to that.

Seriously, who is advocating against what, exactly, that they "know zero about"? I'm genuinely curious.

- DAA
 
Kino M said:
Exactly, you don't understand the problem because you and every other single person here besides myself lives and hunts in the west!
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I don’t consider myself living in the west.
i have hunted the west numerous times and i find the way they hunt is different than the way I have always hunted but it is only because of the difference in terrain and depending on the state, the amount of land available to hunt.
You can not convince me that any animal is different because the state they are in. They don’t know or care. All they want to do is eat,mate, and stay away from people.
 
I have not hunted any further west than Illinois (deer archery for the last 25 years) BUT can tell you it is much different to hunt them there than it is here in the hills and hollows of PA, WVA, and Western MD. Can only figure the same goes for coyotes. Most places I hunt I am lucky to see 300yds and a lot of places that is down to 50 or less.
Then lets talk about numbers and oppurtunities. I would guess a lot of you westerners would have quit long ago if you felt fortunate to hear or see one every so often and have limited access to land. ALL of the large state or federal holdings back here are just about 100% forested ranging from thickets, to second growth, to mature trees.
Anyhow, I do see that we can post under predator hunting or night hunting as I have always done but it is nice to feel "included".
Not understanding how a forum works I can't see the issue of having it remain.

Thanks for reading this "rant/opinion". Mike Eddy
 
I can move ten miles and have to use completely different tactics for the change in habitat. I could learn a lot from the guys in the East. A lot of members could. But as it was, most members weren't seeing any of those posts. Now, they will be. But, again, this change is not irreversible. I personally think it would not be in the best interest of predatormasters as a whole to reverse it. But I don't make any decisions around here. I just try and push forward decisions I thought were already made.

- DAA
 
DAA said:
Exaggerating much?




I'm not completely sure why it was created in the first place. But I believe it was because this site had so much activity that posts in the Predator Hunting forum were scrolling off the first page in less than a day. So subforums were created for narrow interests. That doesn't come close to happening anymore. The reasons for this move have been explained to you multiple times. I'm fine with you disagreeing with it. Disagreement is way underrated. But I'm really not understanding why you continue to claim ignorance.

The reasoning, is this. The big majority of members and visitors here never look in the Hunting in the East forum. So they never see the posts. Putting them in the Predator Hunting forum means that same big majority of member and guests will see those posts. And they'll respond to them. And learn from them. And make new connections with members they hardly even knew existed because they were sequestered in the old Hunting in the East forum. For the overall growth and health of predatormasters, this is all good. More people reading the posts. More interactions. More learning. Etc., etc., etc. And the forum is just easier to navigate, period.

Like I said though, disagreement is underrated. So I'd encourage any and all to feel free to disagree.

Stop acting like this was sprung on you though. You and every other Mod and BoD on this site had two full weeks of advance notice it was going to happen. If you weren't paying attention or didn't understand, that's fine. But quit with the whining like nobody told you. You should have asked questions if you didn't understand what was said.

"You guys are advocating against something you know zero about and aren't considering what eastern guys want and are saying. "

Nobody is advocating "against" ANYTHING! For crying out loud... All anyone is doing is trying to bring new life to this forum. Which I'm not going to say you "know zero about" but I don't think you know much about. Again, disagree with the move all you want, I'm all ears. But stop with the nonsense and whining. Talk about what really happened and what really should happen. Nobody is against listening to that.

Seriously, who is advocating against what, exactly, that they "know zero about"? I'm genuinely curious.

- DAA
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Dave my post was strictly in reference to mods/bods that are not eastern guys, NOT members. When I responded to this thread i actually thought it was in the mod forum (my mistake) as I'm bouncing back and forth. I am the only eastern mod here that regularly hunts in the east and I stand by my comments that you and the rest that have never hunted in the east know zero about it.

You did post an excel sheet as a PROPOSAL in the back two weeks ago but there was never a vote or any input from the members and thats the issue I have. I missed where you was nixing the eastern forum or I would have said something. If we would have given members the opportunity I'm sure they would have chimed in as well.

You may think its "nonsense and whining" for me trying to voice my opinion about getting rid of the eastern forum but I'm not the only one not happy.

Instead of this turning into a pissing match amongst us, how about a reset and let the members get involved??
 
I've hunted in the midwest quite a bit, and hundreds of days in the west as a resident of Montana, I really don't see a major difference in the way they are hunted between the two areas. As 220_Swift accurately pointed out above, they are just coyotes that act like coyotes. They all do the same things. Eat, mate, and try to ensure survival of their young. Doesn't matter which side of the east/west line your on it's all just predator hunting.
 
Kino M said:
Guys I had ZERO knowledge that the eastern forum was getting cut, I'm working in the "back room" to see what I can get done.

1tkyhuntr, DU, PaMick, Why, Alf and others I'm sure I've forgotten to mention are regular contributors to this site. You guys are spot on in the fact that hunting tactics are VERY VERY much different than the west. We are a minority here when it comes to leadership also so stick around and let's see if we can sort this out.
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I'm disappointed. I ALWAYS hit the EAST forum first...then rolled to Night and Pred forum. I really enjoy ALL the posts from EVERYONE---no matter where they are from--I read and watch from ALL. I'm in awe when I see vids/pics posted by Skinny, DAA, Infedel and the guys "out west".

I also love the vids from jmeddy, kino, 1trkeyhnter and Mick, Alf and others..

I appreciate the time and effort everyone takes to post vids and details of their hunts.

So I'll add my .01 worth....I havent posted much of anything because the OLD was such a pain in the ass to post pictures it wasn't worth me going through all the hoops to post pics/graphics of any of my hunts.


So now we get an updated site that caters to the ease of posting pics for members, that WILL in turn increase PM traffic...and East forum gets dropped after 3 weeks..???Interesting reason and we'll all adapt to make it better.
I do plan on catching up by posting some memorable hunts from over the past few years now that we're updated !




.I have always been in tune with the guys here that hunt the "East".....

......and have always deeply admired the guys from the "west" here on PM.....they are who inspired me.....who I absorbed knowledge from.....whos tactics I used as a precedent to build on my coyote knowledge and hunting.

Now just to babble..
Ya coyotes are coyotes.......but the "hunting" IS different here in the East. In a sense cognitive and physical.
There is rarely a field over 50-75 acres.. Private property parcels are small which means in one square mile you may only get permission to hunt 1 parcel that could be only 5-25 acres. Heck...I'm hunting in subdivision back yards that are 50 yards deep to farm parcels that may be 200 acres with 100 acres of "field" with homes in almost every direction.. Most Cattle/Cow "farms" might be 10-20 acres if lucky.

So not only do us Easterners have less vast property expansions....we have less property....and more "interference"......


My yote partner and I shoot over 100 coyotes night hunting a year here in PA...that may not be a drop in the bucket compared to "out west"....but it sure as hell a turns a couple heads here. We kill more than pretty much all the dog runners, so if that says anything to how serious we take coyote hunting.

There's a "3 day" state contest here that gets over 4000 participants for a 64 hour hunt window.........every TDH is out running around calling and dog running every woodlot in the state.......you want to talk about a WTF weekend 🤣....people trespassing, landowners calling the State police and Game Commission...a complete circus. But it gives an idea of how many people give coyote hunting a try here in PA. Public land is NEAR but not totally worthless to coyote hunt on......

We have over 195 properties with permission to night coyote hunt on.....in 1 county. I also hunt Ohio and NY to break things up.
 
limbhanger10 said:
I'm disappointed. I ALWAYS hit the EAST forum first...then rolled to Night and Pred forum. I really enjoy ALL the posts from EVERYONE---no matter where they are from--I read and watch from ALL. I'm in awe when I see vids/pics posted by Skinny, DAA, Infedel and the guys "out west".

I also love the vids from jmeddy, kino, 1trkeyhnter and Mick, Alf and others..

I appreciate the time and effort everyone takes to post vids and details of their hunts.

So I'll add my .01 worth....I havent posted much of anything because the OLD was such a pain in the ass to post pictures it wasn't worth me going through all the hoops to post pics/graphics of any of my hunts.


So now we get an updated site that caters to the ease of posting pics for members, that WILL in turn increase PM traffic...and East forum gets dropped after 3 weeks..???Interesting reason and we'll all adapt to make it better.
I do plan on catching up by posting some memorable hunts from over the past few years now that we're updated !




.I have always been in tune with the guys here that hunt the "East".....

......and have always deeply admired the guys from the "west" here on PM.....they are who inspired me.....who I absorbed knowledge from.....whos tactics I used as a precedent to build on my coyote knowledge and hunting.

Now just to babble..
Ya coyotes are coyotes.......but the "hunting" IS different here in the East. In a sense cognitive and physical.
There is rarely a field over 50-75 acres.. Private property parcels are small which means in one square mile you may only get permission to hunt 1 parcel that could be only 5-25 acres. Heck...I'm hunting in subdivision back yards that are 50 yards deep to farm parcels that may be 200 acres with 100 acres of "field" with homes in almost every direction.. Most Cattle/Cow "farms" might be 10-20 acres if lucky.

So not only do us Easterners have less vast property expansions....we have less property....and more "interference"......


My yote partner and I shoot over 100 coyotes night hunting a year here in PA...that may not be a drop in the bucket compared to "out west"....but it sure as hell a turns a couple heads here. We kill more than pretty much all the dog runners, so if that says anything to how serious we take coyote hunting.

There's a "3 day" state contest here that gets over 4000 participants for a 64 hour hunt window.........every TDH is out running around calling and dog running every woodlot in the state.......you want to talk about a WTF weekend 🤣....people trespassing, landowners calling the State police and Game Commission...a complete circus. But it gives an idea of how many people give coyote hunting a try here in PA. Public land is NEAR but not totally worthless to coyote hunt on......

We have over 195 properties with permission to night coyote hunt on.....in 1 county. I also hunt Ohio and NY to break things up.
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Ever notice how all these "experts" claiming that there is no difference and its all the same has NEVER once posted one single picture of a big pile of eastern coyotes that they killed by themselves???? No extensive videos, no compilations, no hanging racks,, no truck bed full pictures?? Ever notice how western guys never come here and win the big tournaments??

They've never posted really any proof of anything from the east, just opinions that are based on no to very little experience with no to very little success.

Ever notice how everyone goes on VACATION out west to the easy hunting and NOBODY travels to the east for the easy hunting!!!

Its different in the east, period.
 
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