6x45 varmageddons or nbt's?
- Thread starter sethperry
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Yeah that makes sense! I have been seeing alot about splash with the 55 grain varmageddons but at the slower speeds I could see them working better..... I like the nbt's because they have a solid base an that could be beneficial in penetration... an they have a higher BC but idk how much bc matters within 300.. but there about 25$ per box more...
I don't believe I have seen any 70 grainers in awhile...
DoubleUp
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Sethperry, I will add this to your question. In my AR-15 (223 Wylde) my bullet of choice is the 50 gr. V-max. I am shooting it out of a 16" 5r rifling 8 twist stainless barrel (suppressed). My muzzle velocity is 3,200 to 3,250 fps. I consider this a 300 yd. coyote rifle although I have made some kills longer than that. This combination often gives me complete pass-thru shots with side body shots in my normal 100-200 yd. killing range. This same bullet gets accused of splashes out of 22-250 and 220 Swift rifles. I don't shoot the shoulder but tuck in just behind it. I do believe that higher velocities and trying to shoot through the shoulder will result in possible splash wounds.
When I shoot this same bullet in my 22-250 (18" suppressed) at about 3,700 fps I usually don't get complete pass-thrus in that 100-200 yd. range. I realize this is all anecdotal results, but it is what I have experienced. So, it is possible that if you are shooting those 55 Varms at the 3,000 to 3,300 velocity range, they might work fine on coyotes. I guess the only way for you to tell is to get some results with both those bullets in the 6mm's and see.
When I shoot this same bullet in my 22-250 (18" suppressed) at about 3,700 fps I usually don't get complete pass-thrus in that 100-200 yd. range. I realize this is all anecdotal results, but it is what I have experienced. So, it is possible that if you are shooting those 55 Varms at the 3,000 to 3,300 velocity range, they might work fine on coyotes. I guess the only way for you to tell is to get some results with both those bullets in the 6mm's and see.
As stated above, the NBT is a great bullet but has heavier jacket than NVG. I don't worry about fur, too far south. Loved the NBT in 243 WSSM, the solid base insures penetration. Also loved the 55 gr NBT in .223. and .308 Win. Only experience w/the Varmageddon is the 110 in .308; hammer of Thor on coyotes, but it really opens 'em up.
Several of us got on a kick a while back of dissecting some different bullets to look under the hood.
Nosler no longer makes the Solid Base line, but believe they are using same jackets in the NBT
Several of us got on a kick a while back of dissecting some different bullets to look under the hood.
Nosler no longer makes the Solid Base line, but believe they are using same jackets in the NBT
Thanks for sharing.. Those pictures are pretty helpful!
I have heard that 30cal 110gr vmax in 308 is good for varmints.. but in 300blackout its a good defensive round because its moving slower an gets better penetration instead of basically exploding on impact...
204 AR
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I can remember when the Nbt's cost only a little more than the Vmax. They always outshoot the Vmax back then also, I shot them by the truckload at pdogs back then but not anymore.
But for a coyote bullet, I could see the nbt being better. I've shot several with the 40 gr starting out about 3750 out of a 223 AI. Worked well.
But for a coyote bullet, I could see the nbt being better. I've shot several with the 40 gr starting out about 3750 out of a 223 AI. Worked well.
Plant.One
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ya... at blackout velocities - it acts more like a tpical cup and core hunting bullet, with controlled expansion. and it'll expand all the way down to velocities in the 1600 fps range, which translates out past 250 yds, pushing the effective limit of the cartridge when it comes to hunting - especailly on larger game.
Bet it would be a real dandy in the M1 carbine.