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17remhunter

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I purchased two suppressors while living in Oregon. I moved to California where Ive learned that being in possession of them is a felony?? Now if im in Nevada where suppressors are legal Im breaking the law having a suppressor on my rifle since Im from California. Can some make sense out of this confusion for me
 
I don't know what the laws are in Cali , they have more than plenty that are beyond stupid.
If they are in fact illegal in Cali and you live in Cali you can't have them. Now if you are using a suppressor in Nevada that's fine, but only if you legally own them in you state of residence.

If you plan on "riding dirty" it's better not to tell on yourself to the www ,since it's forever !
 
Military Members get hit with this if they own NFA items and transferred to states that do not allow possession of said NFA items.
Simply the NFA items are:
1. Placed in storage in a legal location.
2. Sold prior to relocation to the state prohibiting possession of.

To expand on 1. above say my son whom is stationed in KY, owns a suppressor gets stationed in say N.Y where suppressors are illegal. He could quite easily and legally place his NFA items with a copy of the paperwork within a safe that he owns, here at my house provided only he can gain access to. Example only he has the keys or combination if I have access to the key or combination it would be a illegal transfer.

Now IF he had done his paperwork on a trust, he could merely add me to the trust, hand me the item and I could secure it in my safe for him as it would constitute a lawful transfer of possession. Without the other safe being at my house.

there are other ways such as if a person say had the suppressor in a trust and listed a co-trustee in say Nevada where the item is stored and used it wouldn't be a violation. Or a person that had dual residency of states I've heard of them storing a item in a legal state.

here is what the infamous AI says about it ...
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AI Overview



Lawful storage of a National Firearms Act (NFA) item requires ensuring only the registered owner (or authorized trust members) can access it to avoid illegal "transfer". While no specific federal storage method is mandated, keeping NFA items in a locked safe, container, or room that unauthorized persons cannot access is required.

  • Access Control: The paramount rule is that no unauthorized person—including spouses, roommates, or children—should have access to the safe, key, or combination.
  • Storage Locations: Items can be stored at home or in a bank safe deposit box.
  • Third-Party Storage: If storing at a friend’s or relative’s home, the NFA item must be in a locked container to which only you have the key/combination.
  • Documentation: Always store a copy of your approved Form 1 or Form 4 tax stamp with the item, though the original should be kept in a secure, separate location.
  • Travel/Moving: While NFA items can be moved, items like Short-Barreled Rifles (SBRs) or machine guns require approved ATF Form 5320.20 before crossing state lines.
  • Firearm Trust: Using a Gun Trust allows for authorized co-trustees to have legal access to the storage, simplifying storage if multiple people need access.
Disclaimer: This information is for educational purposes only and does not constitute legal advice. Always check state and local laws, which may be stricter than federal law. "


Another source (look at the table of contents of moving to a prohibited state)
 
all of this for a stupid harmless metal tube.
Very true, but it is a law. Whether we agree or not with it. Our choices are to to adhere to it or face jail time. I much prefer not to be in jail, and enjoy my freedom with the item lawfully. As a majority of states do allow possession of these items I would restrict myself to those states. It's all about choices.


In another thread on tis site the OP @17remhunter mentions he can't give his handgun to his daughter which at first I thought was again another state law restriction. As I know currently federal law does not prohibit gifting a firearm provided that person is not a prohibited person.
This caused a 10 second research on if it's legal to simply give a family member a firearm in the state of California.


It appears to be legal without needing a FFL in the state of California provided the conditions are met. The OP is demonstrating why I would never have a desire to live in the state of California. I know there are some whom might feel I'm attacking the state, not so I simply disagree with their laws, therefore I don't go under their jurisdiction.
 
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I technically don't become a legal citizen of California until ive been there 6 months. I plane on keeping my Truck registration in Oregon. Oregon License Plate Oregon State Id. Move to Nevada or Oregon for 185 days your a resident.
 
all of this for a stupid harmless metal tube.
What all this is about is death of the Second Amendment by a thousand slashes. We all accept a little law here another one there and before you know it its gone and we are all part of it. We all supported it. We are all programmed to obey the laws of the land no questions asked. Im sure most of us will get in line to turn in our guns if the Government tells up to. Just being patriotic. We all want to be seen as good citizens remember our first brainwashing?
 

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I purchased two suppressors while living in Oregon. I moved to California where Ive learned that being in possession of them is a felony?? Now if im in Nevada where suppressors are legal Im breaking the law having a suppressor on my rifle since Im from California. Can some make sense out of this confusion for me
You are the same guy who reminded us all that, (they unscrew very quickly).
 
I technically don't become a legal citizen of California until ive been there 6 months. I plane on keeping my Truck registration in Oregon. Oregon License Plate Oregon State Id. Move to Nevada or Oregon for 185 days your a resident.

i think you mean a permanent resident. those of us born here are already legal citizens of every U.S. State

but since you moved there you have to give up your suppressors and most likely a host of other firearm related items and maybe a firearm or two depending on what you have.

its not called commifornia for nothing.
 
Being a former Californian, I would probably delete this post if you are in California in possession of a suppressor. It doesnt matter if its on a rifle or not. They will absolutely nail you. I dont care if you just touch your toe across the border while holding one they can get you and make life miserable.
Im just saying. Word to the wise.

Edit to say....California is a whole different ballgame than anywhere else and you better check before you get there. You cant bring ammo into California over I think a box or two...background check on buying ammo while living in California...California posts up law enforcementin Reno etc Bass Pro to peep California license plates and pull you over when you cross back....non lead ammo only...all kinds of shit you need to know before you go. Cali has some good hunting and lots of public land believe it or not...but gun and ammo laws are crazy.
And yes I do know 2 people/families that have had ATF show up with a warrant and open gunsafes to confiscate suppressors.
 
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What all this is about is death of the Second Amendment by a thousand slashes. We all accept a little law here another one there and before you know it its gone and we are all part of it. We all supported it. We are all programmed to obey the laws of the land no questions asked. Im sure most of us will get in line to turn in our guns if the Government tells up to. Just being patriotic. We all want to be seen as good citizens remember our first brainwashing?
Don't speak for the rest of us . You have no idea what I did or anyone here did during the covid scam.
You have no idea what I or others here, will do when the Gov starts door knocking for firearms.

Here's a little hint on how I feel.... I almost lost my job of 22 years at the time for refusing the "jab" !
 
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Don't speak for the rest of us . You have no idea what I did or anyone here did during the covid scam.
You have no idea what I or others here, will do when the Gov starts door knocking for firearms.

Here's a little hint on how I feel.... I almost lost my job of 22 years at the time for refusing the "jab" !
I did loose mine. But then my convictions and beliefs are more important than my paycheck. I ended up getting a better job
 
Being a former Californian, I would probably delete this post if you are in California in possession of a suppressor. It doesnt matter if its on a rifle or not. They will absolutely nail you. I dont care if you just touch your toe across the border while holding one they can get you and make life miserable.
Im just saying. Word to the wise.

Edit to say....California is a whole different ballgame than anywhere else and you better check before you get there. You cant bring ammo into California over I think a box or two...background check on buying ammo while living in California...California posts up law enforcementin Reno etc Bass Pro to peep California license plates and pull you over when you cross back....non lead ammo only...all kinds of shit you need to know before you go. Cali has some good hunting and lots of public land believe it or not...but gun and ammo laws are crazy.
And yes I do know 2 people/families that have had ATF show up with a warrant and open gunsafes to confiscate suppressors.
There is no law in California that say you cant buy or possess lead ammunition. It say you cant hunt with it!!
 
Being a former Californian, I would probably delete this post if you are in California in possession of a suppressor. It doesnt matter if its on a rifle or not. They will absolutely nail you. I dont care if you just touch your toe across the border while holding one they can get you and make life miserable.
Im just saying. Word to the wise.

Edit to say....California is a whole different ballgame than anywhere else and you better check before you get there. You cant bring ammo into California over I think a box or two...background check on buying ammo while living in California...California posts up law enforcementin Reno etc Bass Pro to peep California license plates and pull you over when you cross back....non lead ammo only...all kinds of shit you need to know before you go. Cali has some good hunting and lots of public land believe it or not...but gun and ammo laws are crazy.
And yes I do know 2 people/families that have had ATF show up with a warrant and open gunsafes to confiscate suppressors.
I shoot regularly at a public shooting range in California 100% of the shooters ive seen shoot lead core bullets. Only lead shot is required while shooting trap. I have yet to see anyone shooting anything other than lead core
 
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And i thought the correct way to handle those laws you don't like or find unjust was to find legal ways to have it changed or done away with all together, not just ignore it.
Getting them changed, yea right. Our Federal, State, County, and city Governments across this country are defrauding us out of Trillions of $$$. Thats how Government works we are all just their little gerbils
 
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