Reloading the .338 Win Mag

Predator257Roy

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When I start doing some reloading after Christmas, I was going to start working up some loads for my .338 Win Mag. All I shoot with it here in TN is whitetails and yotes if I see them while deer hunting. I'll admit right now that yes, it is overkill, but that's better than being undergunned /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif. I got the rifle for a trip out west and it'll kill bambi just fine here too /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif. The rifle is a Ruger M77 MKII, 26"bbl, don't know the twist. Factory ammo is all 225gr and 250gr bullets. I saw in the Barnes reloading manual bullets in the 185gr range maybe lighter, can't remember. Anybody have luck shooting the lighter weight bullets? I'll also be doing strictly reloading for my .257 Wby Mag using R#22 (Already got some great info from Ackleyman). Would this be a good powder to consider with the .338?

Thanks - Bobby
 
The 210 gr. Nosler partition @ 2956 fps. using RL 19 works very well on both WT deer and nilgai. Have also used the 225 gr. Accubond w/good results.

Regards,
hm
 
What 1996 said.

I've used the 210 Nosler on several deer with good results. You don't want to go too light or you won't be getting anything to eat when you shoot a deer.
 
Ran Barnes 185 TSX bullets through QuickLoad for this chambering, and came up with the following results...

Hodgdon H4350, Ramshot BigGame, Ramshot Hunter, and Win 760 will yield ~3150 fps (at max loading) with this bullet in a 26" barrel. All of these loads are slightly compressed, which is a good thing when pushing "light for caliber" bullets.

It's been my observation that when pushing "light for caliber" or "heavy for case capacity", powders that are slightly faster than the norm usually work best.

Mike
 
FWIW, a friend and I went on a bison "hunt" (shoot would actually be more descriptive) this past Saturday. He was using a .338/.284 loaded with handload 210 Partitions at 2650 fps. He fired 3 shots, and we recovered one....retained weight was 192 grains, and expansion was excellent. The other two shots, at about 50 yards, were complete pass throughs.

I was using my .270 Win with handload 160 grain Partitions at 2850 fps. I, too, fired 3 shots, and recovered one bullet. The front end wiped away completely, (normal with the Partition at hi-velocity) but the petals and shank remained intact and penetrated from the left rear ribcage, diagonally through the entire chest cavity, blew through the far ribcage, and came to rest under the hide. Retained weight of this bullet was 91 grains. Though the offside shoulder wasn't actually touched by the bullet itself, there was a substantial amount of bruising to that shoulder from the impact force. The exit wound through the offside ribcage was almost fist-sized, but the bullet ran out of steam at that point, and didn't exit the hide.

The other two shots I fired were clean through-and-throughs through the ribcage. Range was ~90 yards. The buffs weighed ~800 lbs.

I've pretty much decided that against really large game, the bullet construction is more important than the chambering. I saw one buff take four chest hits from a .300 Win Mag at 50 yards, and it displayed very little reaction to the hits...until it fell down a full minute after the last shot. Turned out, he was shooting plain old Rem CoreLockts, and his penetration was a little less than stellar. Not a one exited the animal.

If I do this again next year (I haven't decided on that...one "meat cow" is a lot of meat), I have some 150 grain Swift A-Frames I'll try out and see how they compare against the Partition. I suspect they'd retain a lot more weight than did my Partitions, but, OTOH, the Partitions worked as well as anything out there, and better than most.

Mike

edit: There was a wide variety of chamberings in play that day. Given proper bullet construction, chambering really isn't of paramount importance. But....the important thing is to have plenty of sharp knives, and good sharpening equipment. Skinning and butchering 3 buff in an afternoon is a pretty tall job, and you go through knife edges like crazy.
 
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I shot mule deer here in WA with my .338, I have shot a few different bullets and I realy like the 200gr nosler accubounds. I have loaded up some at 3000fps and they are very accurate out of my weatherby. I used 4350 imr and ended up just .5 grain under max loaded with no signs of pressure. If you plan on shoting just deer size game I would look into the accubonds.
 
Hey guys, appreciate all the good info. Looks like I'll be working up a load with the Noslers and the Barnes and putting all my saved brass to good use. Should have a winner /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grinning-smiley-003.gif Some of my casing are brass, some are ...steel /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused1.gif (winchester supreme and failsafe). Any differances in loading for them? Would I anneal the steel cases too or just the brass?
 
I love the .338, Ruger 77 ported barrel, Latigo sling, Bauch & Lomb Elite 4000 2.5-10, 2.5lbs trigger. Sierra 215g bt/ imr 4831, col 3.340, wlrm primers, 68 to 68.5 powder. I like the 215 for a all around bullet. I use this for coyotes in the winter when the wind is howling.
Jim
 
Predator257Roy,

Don't you know Ruger's wont shoot?

I tried the 180 grain Accubonds at 3200 fps. Real accurate but they kept getting longer in the mag. My gun has a muzzle brake. I traded those off and loaded up some 225 grain Nosler Accubonds over 71.5 grains of IMR4350. It resulted in a .428" group, chronied at a tad over 2900 fps. I had to seat for nearly .080" jump with this bullet.

Don't know why but I can't depart from the Hornady 225 grain Interlock over 75.0 grains of H4831. A cheap bullet by today's standards but I have killed a bunch of critters from coyotes to elk with it and all but a couple have been bang-flops. Best group .217" chronied at just under 2800 fps.

By the way, my 338 is an M77 Mark II. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif
 
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"I tried the 180 grain Accubonds at 3200 fps. Real accurate but they kept getting longer in the mag."

That's a bit strange!! Recoil will frequently set bullets back into the case in a magazine. Never heard of it pulling bullets out of the case. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif

Jack
 
I sure couldn't figure it out, so I scrapped them. It took me forever to figure out why when I set everything up right at home they would not feed at the range. I started measuring before and after and sure enough they were growing in the mag. In fact it was smashing the little plastic tips a tad. Can't crimp them even a little cause there is no cannelure. Don't ask me to explain, I won't try. Just went back to what works for me.
 


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