Coyote Pee?

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I posted on the Calling in the East board and got no bites so I'll ask here.
How would coyote pee work as a cover/attractor scent?
I work at a nature center where we have 2 coyote in a pen. They'll pee on whatever I throw in the pen! I even thought about letting them pee on my decoy! How about scat? I've got plenty of that too!
I was going to store the "sample" in a zip-lock or Tupperware container.
Any thoughts?
 
As a mist like hunterclaus of "In Heat Scents" markets, it can act as both a cover scent and an attractor. Spraying it into the air can cover your human scent, yet also act as an attractant for coyotes. Coyotes are pretty territorial, even horny at this time of year..a whiff of Shakira Coyote might get some attention. Using a dripper might get you some coyotes too, employing a little around a trap often coyotes checking out the latest coyote newsclip. Remember, coyote urine or even any animal urine is like a newspaper to those boogers....kinda like a singles ad, telling each other hey, I'm here, I'm cute..or meaner...this is what I had for breakfast and....Hi, I'm George, what's your sign?
 
Coyote pee will work as a cover scent. I would use essence of skunk or fox pee first, though. Skunk is better at masking odors, and coyotes eat competing foxes, so they investigate fox scent wherever they find it.

I have always wondered how coyotes respond to human pee on a fence post. My guess is they mark it after a few days.
 
If I were you I'd use it anytime I called. Try cutting it with water 1/2 Pee & 1/2 Water, Find a spray bottle and use it to cover your down wind scent. I spray a couple pumps on the area before I leave too if I plan on coming back. It's kinda fun teasing them a bit too. If you want try this,, pull on some clean old rubber boots, after you're out of your truck spray the bottoms of the boots and walk out an open hill side you picked out. Take some yote crap with you and lay out a couple of nice stinky piles. Mark the area with something obvious but natural that you can spot from a distance. Cover your scent! When you come back,use your howler. Try a couple sets. stylesjay@hotmail.com /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
 
I'm sure it wouldn't hurt anything. But my feeling is that the coyote shouldn't make it downwind in the first place, at a properly set up stand, to smell any poop or pee or anything else. I don't think it is possible to cover human scent. It may work as an attractant though.

I'm not a big fan of decoys or packing turds and piss with me calling. I can't recall a coyote that I would not have got without a decoy either. If they can see the decoy, then they are probably close enough to shoot. Any slight advantage this may or may not give is not worth it to me.

Not trying to be the big "nay sayer". This is just my opinion. Not saying this won't work wonders for others.

Let us know how you do if you try it.

Later, Curt
 
I personally don`t think cover sents cover anything. A dog, fox or coyote can smell about 1,000 times better than a human. What this boils down to is that when we smell a Big Mac, we recognize it as a Big Mac. When a dog smells a Big Mac he smell the hamberger, the bun, the onion, the pickle, ect. If a human walks by a post that dogs use for a marking post we will usually smell dog pee. If a dog walks by he will reconize all of the dogs that`s used it resently. A cover sent to a dog is not a cover sent, it`s just another sent.
 
I just read somewhere that bloodhounds and other dogs with exceptional noses can smell 1,000,000 times better than us! I thought this number to be exceedingly high and may be a misprint. Regardless, that's a whole lot of zero's behind a 1. The point is no matter what you spray on yourself, around you or in the vicinity of you, when a coyote gets downwind, they're going to smell you. The only exception I have found is when it is very cold your scent drops straight down to the ground and doesn't move much. Usually no wind is blowing during these temperatures though. Food for thought. As for me, I have never sprayed myself with coyote urine. When trapping, one goes to unbelievable lengths to keep human scent off of sets. Why is that? Because a coyote will smell you longggg after you are gone. Imagine what it's like if your still standing in your tracks! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif
 
Well...I'm going to agree that the use of scents in some instances is kinda rediculous. Spraying oneself with the urine of a coyote/raccoon/deer/peruvian yak is in my opinion sorta nuts. Hanging a dripper is another matter entirely. For trapping purposes scents can work wonders. Whether to hide or at least lessen the impact of human scent.

I personally...and this might be a lack of useable genes on my part, but I bury my ghillie suit in the backyard....and dig it up later for hunts sometimes..yeah I know..who's calling who nuts...but I think it works and dammit, that's the important thing.

I think the whole idea of cover scents is a good one if looked at with a analytical mind. Again, it just might be the plate in my head that shifted...but look at it as an end around. You spray some coyote urine into the prevailing winds, maybe even some rabbit potty...is it covering your scent? No...but maybe the coyote, who is inquisitive in its own right, might just investigate...hunger too..hunger drives much of what a coyote does in my opinion, it's an opportunistic little furry predator. When have you been somewhere..smelled a bucket of pork and sauerkraut cooking and said to yourself, gee...I feel like pork. We have all sorts of choices for food, coyotes have fewer. Berries and such are great, and a staple of coyotes, but MEAT is higher on the yummability scale.....urine in the air means meat...very few berries pee.

Do I use scents? Sometimes...do I use cover scents? No...unless Bart the Beagle decides to pee on the ground where my ghillie is buried.
 
I agree that you can't cover and totally mask human scent from a dog. You can however take the edge off their fear if you provide them with the smell of a coyote in heat, even when they smell human at the same time. Years on the trapline and studying tracks shows that when you set a trap or snare, you use scents and keep it clean to increase your success. If you're setting up an area using urine or droppings on a distant hillside so you can come back to howl in that area, why not try to cover your scent just like you were setting a trapline? I keep my calling camo cloths in a gunny sack filled with bark, leaves, twigs and weeds. If I get lazy or need to dry them out, I put them in the wood shed. But then I called in a yote when I was wearing a brown T-shirt!
 
First and foremost I will say this, use whatever it takes to make you feel more confident that when you make a stand that you will be successful. But remember when someone tells you to take an aspirin DO NOT take the whole bottle.

NOW:
I`m with Curt on this one, I used essence of skunk one time back in the 80`s not fond of that smell and have never used any scent cover or otherwise since. Stand selection and wind direction to me is more important than scent control.
 
A couple of years ago I shot a couple of coyotes on a farm and brought them home. I pulled them out into the back yard and kids wanted to know how much they weighed so I walked to the garage to grab the scale. On my return I saw a familar back line in the horse pasture only 90 yards away. My whole family is in the yard next to 2 dead coyotes and I'm walking to them and a coyote is standing less than 100 yards away just watching us. Why? The wind from the two coyotes, and us, was blowing right toward it. It stood around long enough for me to run into the house and retrieve my rifle and load it up. Then I botched a perfect shot. Too many onlookers. I hardly use them but I believe the a good cover scent can help keep their interest.
 
I really don't think it is possible to cover human scent. I agree that it is possible for a scent to cause a coyote to cautiously investigate the source and overcome his fear of human scent.

As for the comments of trappers using scents to cover human scent, that is 100% wrong. All trappers who can catch a coyote know you can't cover human scent at a trapsite. The scents that trappers use are for attracting the animal. Sometimes urine is added to the set but it is an aditional attractant not a cocer scent.
 
i use the sheep skin pads on elastic strapped onto my boots.. drip a little scent on them then walk to my blind.. i take em off before i make it to the blind and lay em out in the open.. works wonders /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
 
Scents aren't for everybody. Some folks like them some don't.

Below is a link to a page on my site that tells and shows (has pics) how Robert Cobb used the Coyote In Heat Urine to help him get a Call-Shy Coyote.

http://www.inheatscents.net/boared01.html

The scent helped Robert on this occasion. I am sure it hasn't helped him every time.

None of the scents are magic, none of them work every time, but like Mr. Doug Mason of Weimar, Texas told me "if you dont use them they cant work".
 


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