how good of groups at 100 yards??
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Dakota Yote
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That's another good reason for wearing good ear protection, you can't hear the cell phone.
Street,
Did the Quarter size groups make you feel good? The reason I ask is for most game that is exceptable grouping maybe really good grouping. I have a buddy that feels great when he shoots his .243 and can cover three shots with half dollar. Here's the kicker, he feels good and thus feels confident when he goes afield. Now he is not going PD hunting or shooting long range so he will never need to know what "accurate" really is. I on the other hand am happy when I can cover five shots in .223 with a dime. I like to shoot at crows up to about 500 yards and I need that kind of accuracy. Chances are good if I miss a shot it's because of me, the wind, mirrage or the crow moves. I know guys that loose sleep when they can't cover 5 shots with a asparin.
Did the Quarter size groups make you feel good? The reason I ask is for most game that is exceptable grouping maybe really good grouping. I have a buddy that feels great when he shoots his .243 and can cover three shots with half dollar. Here's the kicker, he feels good and thus feels confident when he goes afield. Now he is not going PD hunting or shooting long range so he will never need to know what "accurate" really is. I on the other hand am happy when I can cover five shots in .223 with a dime. I like to shoot at crows up to about 500 yards and I need that kind of accuracy. Chances are good if I miss a shot it's because of me, the wind, mirrage or the crow moves. I know guys that loose sleep when they can't cover 5 shots with a asparin.
cougerbait
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I look at this in a couple of different ways.
10 to 20 years 1 inch at 100 yards was to die for in a hunting gun. Still 1 MOA in a hunting gun is good. Any thing smaller is a big plus. And the more time and money you spend with a gun the better it should get. I do think that trigger time is the best way of improving the group that you are shooting.
I just bought a .223 savage in model 340. the gun is ugly as sin and about 40 years old. But on saterday 2 of us shoot .50 with it a couple of times. Could it get better? I think so. But I'm not going to mess with it. Any coyote I put the cross hairs on at or under 300 yards is going down. And that is all that gun is for.
Another thing is be careful on what you read on the net. NOW I'M NOT CALLING ANY ONE A LIER HERE!!!!!! But from what I have been reading every one has guns shooting under 1 inch out of the box. And I think that is a bunch of BS. I feel good when my hunting guns shoot at the 1 inch mark. To top it off 1 3 shot group dosen't make the gun under 1 inch. do it 2-3 times and that is the proof in the pudding.
I think that if it is shooting .75 at 100, that is great in my opinion. You might be able to close it up more. But the big thing is what is that gun used for, and is it worth the time and money to close it up. Only you can answer that one.
What ever route you choose, good luck with it . And have fun.
This post was not direceted at any one person. There is alot of good guns here and shooters. These where just my .02.
good luck shooting!
10 to 20 years 1 inch at 100 yards was to die for in a hunting gun. Still 1 MOA in a hunting gun is good. Any thing smaller is a big plus. And the more time and money you spend with a gun the better it should get. I do think that trigger time is the best way of improving the group that you are shooting.
I just bought a .223 savage in model 340. the gun is ugly as sin and about 40 years old. But on saterday 2 of us shoot .50 with it a couple of times. Could it get better? I think so. But I'm not going to mess with it. Any coyote I put the cross hairs on at or under 300 yards is going down. And that is all that gun is for.
Another thing is be careful on what you read on the net. NOW I'M NOT CALLING ANY ONE A LIER HERE!!!!!! But from what I have been reading every one has guns shooting under 1 inch out of the box. And I think that is a bunch of BS. I feel good when my hunting guns shoot at the 1 inch mark. To top it off 1 3 shot group dosen't make the gun under 1 inch. do it 2-3 times and that is the proof in the pudding.
I think that if it is shooting .75 at 100, that is great in my opinion. You might be able to close it up more. But the big thing is what is that gun used for, and is it worth the time and money to close it up. Only you can answer that one.
What ever route you choose, good luck with it . And have fun.
This post was not direceted at any one person. There is alot of good guns here and shooters. These where just my .02.
good luck shooting!
Say street,
Before you start blaming anything on the rifle and ammo check out this site, go to this page http://www.varmintal.com/ashot.htm
and click on "Benchrest Techniques" in the middle top of the page. Varmint Al site is helpful to me and the techniques/fundamentals help produce some of the groups that I am getting. I would not have groups like I do without following the basics that are pointed out on his web page. Read it all, over and over again.
Before you start blaming anything on the rifle and ammo check out this site, go to this page http://www.varmintal.com/ashot.htm
and click on "Benchrest Techniques" in the middle top of the page. Varmint Al site is helpful to me and the techniques/fundamentals help produce some of the groups that I am getting. I would not have groups like I do without following the basics that are pointed out on his web page. Read it all, over and over again.
varmint101
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W@W was right, I needed my waders to get down on all of this haha. Anyways, I am absolutely no bench rest shooter, but I will tell you when I bought my BDL it didn't shoot close to an inch right out of the box hahaha. See, you thought I was going to say it would didn't you? I'm happy with the 1 1/2" groups I get now. Or at least I think they're 1.5. I probably don't even measure that right though. I don't have a bench so I don't think I'm going to get much better than that on a regular basis. Sometimes I do have better groups though, it just depends on how much I concentrate. Alright, so I didn't really add anything I just said something, but it sort of sounded like I know what I'm talking about, eh? I'm tryin. Getting better as I go which is a plus!! Good shooting to all and to all a good night! (ho ho ho lol)
Matt
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Bob Addy
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Hey Street,
You didn't say if the gun had been bedded and floated. The very first thing any new gun of mine has done is a trigger job and action bedded (pillar) and barrel floated. When I start shooting I want the very best posssible for the gun. If anything is wrong it will be me ,,not the gun. Just got a new Swift in and did all this. It shoots .35 or better and is getting better as the barrel breaks in.
You didn't say if the gun had been bedded and floated. The very first thing any new gun of mine has done is a trigger job and action bedded (pillar) and barrel floated. When I start shooting I want the very best posssible for the gun. If anything is wrong it will be me ,,not the gun. Just got a new Swift in and did all this. It shoots .35 or better and is getting better as the barrel breaks in.
Sounds like your gun shoots plenty good enough for me. We don't have any praire dogs here in Missouri and all our coyotes are bigger than quarters and I can't think of ever needing to take a 500 yard shoot in my hunting areas but then again that long range shooting may be easier. It has got to be a lot less nerve wracking than them 20 yard shots I routinely blow while I am wishing for my shotgun. If you have a smooth crisp trigger with a 2-3 lb pull tops, (and they never come that way from the factory), and hit within an inch of that quarter at 100 yds your gun should be good to go for callin coyotes of course there is always that problem I have with all my guns called operator failure! shoot alot and have fun that's what it is all about.
my rifle is a winchester model 70 in 243 win.. it was made in 1978.. so no its not new.. its just new to me.. my gunsmith did a nice trigger job....floated the barrel.. etc.. i've been thru some problems with it.. because my rear scope rings were loose!! sheesh!! now that thats been fixed ..plus the legendary center screw.. i'm shooting pretty good .. altho i haven't been to the range in a while.. and i'll admit i need to.. but i've been touching off the prairie dogs and 100+ yards with no problems.. some of the shots in the 180 yard area.. i'm so shocked that if i hold the crosshairs on the pd and squeeze the trigger slowly.. i generally hit what i'm aiming at.. what a thrill! i've got a nikon 4.5X14 40AO .. i'm hoping to take it back to the range this week..and see how it patterns with the 58gr v-max from hornady.. i haven't started reloading yet but i hope to soon. AND thanks for the replies and info!!!