Widow maker 223
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I don't see the current shit show ending anytime soon. 30+ times we've heard about a deal incoming. Jihadis don't make deals unless you have a boat load of virgins.
Tentative 60-Day Iran Ceasefire Deal Reached, Pending Trump’s Approval
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steve garrett
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I am starting to call trump the boy who cried deal. Someone has counted 39 times he has said there is a "deal" on his social media. Now its we have been ripping off iran and stealing oil. What trump is doing is attempting to manipulate the markets. I think even he knows the "deal" word has lost its steam. what better way to cool oil prices but to say we have been stealing oil.
I was annoyed about the left never calling out Biden. our side that fails to call out Trump on this kinda thing is no different than the blind biden people.
I was annoyed about the left never calling out Biden. our side that fails to call out Trump on this kinda thing is no different than the blind biden people.
The most dangerous thing to an extreme partisan isn't the other side. It's someone willing to criticize both sides. Not because they're wrong, but because they can't be neatly sorted into a tribe.
A lot of people don't defend principles. They defend memberships. Once your identity becomes tied to a political side, criticism stops feeling like a challenge to an idea and starts feeling like a personal attack.
That's why so many discussions today aren't about trying to find the truth, questioning assumptions, or calling out hypocrisy. They're about protecting the "team".
People say they want independent thinkers right up until those thinkers stop agreeing with them. That's when independent thought suddenly becomes a problem.
A lot of people don't defend principles. They defend memberships. Once your identity becomes tied to a political side, criticism stops feeling like a challenge to an idea and starts feeling like a personal attack.
That's why so many discussions today aren't about trying to find the truth, questioning assumptions, or calling out hypocrisy. They're about protecting the "team".
People say they want independent thinkers right up until those thinkers stop agreeing with them. That's when independent thought suddenly becomes a problem.
Widow maker 223
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Exact same thing happens with racism. Perfect example is the current murder trial and all the dribble coming out of the mouths of the ''suppressed''.
The pattern repeats. they get close to a deal, the IRGC attacks someone so someone has to counter attack & there goes the deal
Absolutely. It applies to racism and even prejudices within one's own race as well.
Tribalism is deeply embedded in human nature. It's a survival mechanism that helped early humans form groups, identify threats, and protect their own. But we're also capable of reasoning beyond our instincts.
Free thinkers recognize that tendency and try to rise above it. Too many people simply surrender to it.
Jack Nicholson called it out perfectly in Easy Rider. People love to talk about freedom and independent thought until that freedom produces ideas they don't like. Then the free thinker becomes the threat.
I hadn't made that connection before, but the more I think about it, the more sense it makes. Unfortunately.
My co-worker from India hates Pakistan.
I asked him what he thought of the rumors that Pakistan might have already or will sell nuclear bombs to Iran.
He looked at me and said, "Yes. They need money. They'll sell it to Iran. Then they'll charge extra to teach them how to launch it."
I've never seen someone answer a geopolitical question with the confidence of a man discussing tomorrow's weather forecast.
I asked him what he thought of the rumors that Pakistan might have already or will sell nuclear bombs to Iran.
He looked at me and said, "Yes. They need money. They'll sell it to Iran. Then they'll charge extra to teach them how to launch it."
I've never seen someone answer a geopolitical question with the confidence of a man discussing tomorrow's weather forecast.
Well, guess it's over now.
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WATCH: Trump Says US Will Attack Iran "Very Hard" Today - "They Should Have Signed the Deal" * The Gateway Pundit * by Jordan Conradson
President Trump on Wednesday told reporters that US strikes on Iran will continue after trading attacks last night.
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US May Have Used Its Own 'Dark Fleet' Tankers to Smuggle Oil Through the Strait of Hormuz
US secretly used 'dark fleet' tankers to smuggle oil through Strait of Hormuz under military cover.
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Foxpro.223
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Big government is big government regardless of who is implementing it, R or D doesn't matter as we get the same result.
Finally, an Iran deal?
President Donald Trump called off U.S. strikes against Iran, including a reported plan to take Kharg Island, which the Islamic regime has been using to close the Strait of Hormuz. Trump explained that negotiations to reopen the Strait were “pretty much all wrapped up” and that Tehran was on the cusp of signing a deal. Meanwhile, Iranian spokesman Esmaeil Baghaei acknowledged, “The text has almost been finalized in its major parts,” but he noted that the regime had not yet fully approved of the deal. Despite Iran’s hesitancy, Trump expects the regime to agree, with a Washington envoy, including Vice President JD Vance, preparing to head to Switzerland for a possible signing ceremony in Geneva this weekend. The deal would open the Strait of Hormuz and progressively lift sanctions on Iran should the regime meet a number of agreed-to obligations.
The Strait of Hormuz is more open than previously believed
President Trump delivered a nasty shock to the Iranian regime during a press conference on Wednesday, revealing that the U.S. military had secretly helped over 200 ships transit the Strait of Hormuz. Those 200 ships carried “millions of barrels every night,” which Trump alleges has helped keep oil prices around $90 a barrel rather than surging to $200. Market experts say commercial traffic through the Strait remains well below pre-war levels, and the market is losing a large volume of oil daily. Despite the ongoing economic cost of the war in Iran, JPMorgan suggested last week that more oil was moving than was being admitted. Defense officials suggest the U.S. is not escorting ships through the strait but coordinates with them and intercedes militarily if Iran attempts a strike.
President Donald Trump called off U.S. strikes against Iran, including a reported plan to take Kharg Island, which the Islamic regime has been using to close the Strait of Hormuz. Trump explained that negotiations to reopen the Strait were “pretty much all wrapped up” and that Tehran was on the cusp of signing a deal. Meanwhile, Iranian spokesman Esmaeil Baghaei acknowledged, “The text has almost been finalized in its major parts,” but he noted that the regime had not yet fully approved of the deal. Despite Iran’s hesitancy, Trump expects the regime to agree, with a Washington envoy, including Vice President JD Vance, preparing to head to Switzerland for a possible signing ceremony in Geneva this weekend. The deal would open the Strait of Hormuz and progressively lift sanctions on Iran should the regime meet a number of agreed-to obligations.
The Strait of Hormuz is more open than previously believed
President Trump delivered a nasty shock to the Iranian regime during a press conference on Wednesday, revealing that the U.S. military had secretly helped over 200 ships transit the Strait of Hormuz. Those 200 ships carried “millions of barrels every night,” which Trump alleges has helped keep oil prices around $90 a barrel rather than surging to $200. Market experts say commercial traffic through the Strait remains well below pre-war levels, and the market is losing a large volume of oil daily. Despite the ongoing economic cost of the war in Iran, JPMorgan suggested last week that more oil was moving than was being admitted. Defense officials suggest the U.S. is not escorting ships through the strait but coordinates with them and intercedes militarily if Iran attempts a strike.
Foxpro.223
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So there's an agreement. Confirmed by multiple sources including Iran & Pakistan. Signing set for friday in Switzerland
No, we aren't going to give them $350 billion. Vance has already addressed this. It doesn't sound like anyone else is either but if they stick to the terms they will open doors to getting some of their own money back as well as trade with other nations
Of course by the Iran could break the deal & it's off again, I'd rate that at least 50% likely, maybe higher
Price of crude oil tanked yesterday, back under $80 / bbl
No, we aren't going to give them $350 billion. Vance has already addressed this. It doesn't sound like anyone else is either but if they stick to the terms they will open doors to getting some of their own money back as well as trade with other nations
Of course by the Iran could break the deal & it's off again, I'd rate that at least 50% likely, maybe higher
Price of crude oil tanked yesterday, back under $80 / bbl
If the agreement holds, thank God.
Call it a win, lower the flags from crisis mode, and get back to the business of fixing things here at home. We have enough problems inside our own borders without spending the next decade searching for new ones in the Middle East.
The real question isn't whether a deal gets signed Friday. It's whether anyone is still following it a year from now.
Call it a win, lower the flags from crisis mode, and get back to the business of fixing things here at home. We have enough problems inside our own borders without spending the next decade searching for new ones in the Middle East.
The real question isn't whether a deal gets signed Friday. It's whether anyone is still following it a year from now.