Which Choke?

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I've been checking chokes out for my 12 ga Mossberg 500.

I've narrowed it down to two:

Primos Dead Dog. It has vents that are supposed to releive gases so that they don't blow through your shot pattern. Dense patterns upward of 50 yards.

Then there's Carlson's Dead Coyote that looks real good and produces dense patterns up to 70 yards.

Does anyone have any experience with any of these chokes?

Anyone have enough experience with both to compare them and give an opinion as to which they would buy?

All responses appreciated .

Bill
 
No one can really help you. Really the only way to make sure is to buy differnt chokes and see what patterns good with your gun.

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I just got a Truglo Gobbler Stopper Extreme last week for my 500. I wanted something that would work for both turkeys and predators. I patterned it at about 35-40 yards with #4 buck and was very happy with the results. The pattern was much tighter than I expected.
 
Why cant people understand Turkey chokes arent made for buckshot or steel shot for that matter!!!! Puregold chokes make a buckshot choke but it takes a special steel treatment to be able to do so. Carlsons and Primos make one too now. I'm glad you'll are using less than $500 guns with this bad judgement so you wont be out as much when the end blows off. IF you dont believe me please call Truglo, comp n choke, Briley, Carlson, or any choke maker and ask if you can shoot any type buck or steel shot out of a turkey choke. Just because the constricton is the same doesnt mean it will work. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smiliesmack.gif
 
We ran deer with dogs for years here and a IMP cylinder or Modifed choke always gave the best patterns with buckshot.........but its hard to get people to understand that.
 
BHLBAMA, I shoot a Benelli (definatly not a $500 shot gun) . I have pattered with cylinder, imp cyl, modified, as well as a HS turkey choke , and the Carlsons dead coyote choke. I use the carlsons. All were tested with remington #4 buck 3" shells .It's tough to argue with the results on the pattern board. I also talked first hand with Scott and Shane Carlson . They both said #4 buck through this choke was no problem. To each his own.
 
Yes through a dead coyote its fine. Thats one of its purposes........ But not a TURKEY choke. I've also talked to Shane probably 20 different times he is always the one who answers the phone. I own 3 Benelli's SBE's , 4 Berettas, and half a dozen Brownings with probably 2000 worth of Briley, pure gold, Browning Midas and Carlsons chokes. I know for a 100% fact buckshot or steel shot is not suposed to be shot out of any turkey choke that isnt specially heat treated for that purpose.
 
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AM I wrong???? I will personally call or email 3 of the choke makers tommorrow and type in detail or post the responses from each. I'm not saying it cant be done but it is dangerous. I used to hunt with a older guy who shot a factory flush full Rem choke for years before the back pressure from the barrel eventually blew out the end of his shotgun. I personally blew off a poly choke in the early 90's shooting it on full with steel shot. SO I know for a fact....... not wives tales that the choke manuf. warn people for a reason. People can choose whatever choke they want but if I was doing something dangerous I would hope someone would atleast try to warn me.
 
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AM I wrong????



In my opinon and experience... No... and... Yes. And, I might add I may not understand exactly your point. For clarity, is it construction and heat treatment of the choke that concerns you? Or, the constriction/diameter of the choke? When you say "buckshot" what exactly are you talking about? Better defining those points might help your stand.
 
My .696 PureGold "buckshot" choke (which is very close to a full choke .695 not XXfull) has a heating/special porting process i think that I'm not fully informed on. But before I bought them I called all three companies and asked since it was advertised as .696 if one of my .670 turkey chokes wouldnt work. Puregold said NO!!!!. I thought marketing ploy trying to hook me into buying another choke. So I called Briley then Comp n Choke and both said they same thing. Two of them didnt even make a buckshot choke and they still said dont do it. I cant remember the exact reason now due to it being so long ago....... but I know it deals with the heating/porting process. I will call tommorrow just to get the exact explanation so we'll all know.
 
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danurve - I used plain Remington #4 buck. I should add that it is 2 3/4" shell. I have a very hard time finding 3" shells in my area.

BHLBAMA - Sorry to ruffle your feathers. I'll let you know when something happens to my less than $500 shotgun. You should speak up. After spending many hours looking at past posts on shotgun choke tubes this is the first time I've read anything about not using a "turkey" choke for buckshot. I have better ways to spend my money than on $2,000 worth of shotgun choke tubes, but to each their own. I'd love to have a gun safe full of shotguns too. Ain't going to happen for me. The man asked for responses and I gave him one. Let us know what you find out.
 
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Try patterning your factory chokes. If those don't look good enough, then try aftermarket. Turkey chokes and buckshot don't usually mix.
 
Expected to hear the results of Bama's phone calls by now. Calling for Bama, what'd ya hear from the companies? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused1.gif
 
I've been using my turkey choke (.660) with #4 Buckshot for several years and if I'm not mistaken I called a couple of choketube makers and they said it was just fine, I think one was Trulock and can't remember the other one...old age working!
 
Turkey tight chokes from .680" to .660" work just fine with shot as large as No. Four Buck. With that said, I would not use 00 Buck in a choke that tight. Most chokes for the largest buckshot, such as 00 and 000, seldom go beyond a typical factory modified or improved modified constriction. I'm trying to understand what exactly Bama is trying to convey in his post. I think he is spot on about heat treatment and construction for steel and Hevi-Shot. Some chokes state they are rated for "Lead Only", others will safely shoot Steel, Hevi-Shot, and Lead. However, a standard lead only choke tube will shoot lead No. Four Buck with no problems. Never heard of special heat treatment specifically for buckshot only. Interestingly nobody above would define "buckshot" in their post, even after I asked... /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused1.gif
 


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