12-year-old Queens student handcuffed

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12-year-old Queens student handcuffed and arrested for doodling on desk
February 6,

Yesterday, 12-year-old Alexa Gonzalez was handcuffed and arrested for doodling on her desk at Junior High School 190 in Forest Hills.

She wrote "I love my friends Abby and Faith," adding the phrases "Lex was here. 2/1/10" and a smiley face.

When her Spanish teacher saw this, it was reported and the 12-year-old girl was handcuffed in metal cuffs (Not even the plastic ones they use on hardened criminals), led out of school and detained at the police station across the street.

School property should not be defaced and we want our kids to know this. But wasn’t making her stay after class and cleaning her desk more appropriate?

Alexa is a good student with a stellar attendance record. She was crying, vomiting and terrified. She called her mother immediately. When she saw her daughter in handcuffs, the police officer told her it was procedure.

Her mother, Moraima Tamacho, 49, an accountant, who lives with her daughter in Kew Gardens said "The whole situation has been a nightmare."

This poor child was humiliated. It’s bad enough when parents abuse their kids, but when kids are traumatized and arrested for a minor infraction, this is clearly child abuse on the part of the school.

According to news sources, City officials acknowledged Alexa's arrest was a mistake, and that City Education Department spokesman David Cantor said "Based on what we've seen so far, this shouldn't have happened."

Alexa is still suspended from school, her mother said. She and her mom went to family court on Tuesday, where Alexa was assigned eight hours of community service, a book report and an essay on what she learned from the experience.

Alexa Gonzalez no longer faces a suspension for scribbling with a lime green marker, but principal Marilyn Grant told her mother, that agency policy dictated that she calls the cops.

Grant told Alexa’s mother that it wasn't their fault that it was something they had to do," Camacho said of her meeting with Grant at Junior High School 190 in Forest Hills. "She doesn't consider it doodling."

According to Department of Education spokesperson Margie Feinberg "This should not have happened and the principal has lifted the suspension."

Hopefully the NYPD and the City Education Department will agree this is excessive punishment and change how kids are punished for minor infractions.

Even though kids shouldn't doodle on school property, they're being kids. Give them detention -- but excessive punishment is off the wall and completely wrong.

The NYPD is expected this month to start using Velcro handcuffs to subdue unruly kids following a pilot program in 22 schools in northern Queens. Hopefully they will be use donly for kids who present danger to themselves and others and not for "doodling" on their desks!
 
It is sad that in todays world there is no room for common sense. Out of fear of litigation, police departments, schools, whatever, have standard procedures that they follow.

I believe it was excessive, but I can't imagine that it actually hurt this kid. Kind of reminds me of the "Scared straight" stuff.
 
I heard this on the radio. What moron calls the cops for something so stupid. What is the principal there for if not to make decisions to control the students behavior? And the teacher is no better. A bucket of water and a sponge on every desk in the class room would have gone alot further. But then thats just me!!! Good thing she wasn't caught smoking in the bathroom-- would have had to call the swat team. Poor kid should get a public apology.
 
Sure I can say it. Can you say getting sued. I think there is a reason cops handcuff people before putting them in the car. I have heard cops say, they will use all legal means to do their job.

I already wrote that I thought it was excessive. I also don't believe in zero tolerance, but they won't let me make the rules.
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I don't like abusive people either.
 
Originally Posted By: Ricc9Can you say, police state out of control!

Sure I can say it. Can you say getting sued. I think there is a reason cops handcuff people before putting them in the car. I have heard cops say, they will use all legal means to do their job.


I already wrote that I thought it was excessive, and it is sad that in todays world there is no room for common sense. I also don't believe in zero tolerance, but they won't let me make the rules.
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I don't like abusive people either.
 
Another reason to home or private school. To have the girl clean and/or refinish the desk would have been appropriate. Calling the police? Idiots! Just wait until our guns are outlawed. The cops phones will be ringing off the hook from the whiners calls. I wonder where the girl's father is? Probably gone, like so many others.
 
It goes further than what has already has been addressed,.Hec, she is 12 yo! I think she should have been taught by Ma Ma! and the Pa Pa! If there is a father figure, That writing on, jumping on and any other type of this behavior is inexuseable and unacceptable, Man have things changed with the dumbing down of America and this trash wagon society!

Blame the Mother and father on this one,.[beeep] the school on the handling.

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Originally Posted By: HunterBear71Her parents should have been billed to replace or repair the desk. Involving the police simply wasted more taxpayer money.



Yep! your right this is how society handles situations anymore not taking responsibility and have a larger agency handle the situation,.As Ricc said Police state. Papers please! Papers Please! Next!...Next Please! Papers?

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Many school districts we have Community "Resource" Officers on every campus and especially the Alternative Schools where the juveniles already have been suspended/expelled from the regular neighborhood schools.
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It works pretty good as there is NO DELAY to react to a student out of control. I was working the Willard Alternative School a while back when one of the Drill Instructors had a fight on his hands in the hall way and asked me for my cuffs to restrain the student which I did knowing it was necessary.
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Hand cuffs have an almost magical affect on people; the juvenile stopped struggling instantly, I walked him to the Resource Office, got him a plate of food since it was lunch, and took only one cuff off so he could eat.
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The Principal looked daggers @ me until I let him out of the handcuffs, but I did'nt do it until I was pretty sure he would not return to fight mode! My call!
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Some of these incidents don't wind up so nice!
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Good hunting!
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Originally Posted By: greg223Another reason to home or private school. To have the girl clean and/or refinish the desk would have been appropriate. Calling the police? Idiots! Just wait until our guns are outlawed. The cops phones will be ringing off the hook from the whiners calls. I wonder where the girl's father is? Probably gone, like so many others.

Greg, you've identified something that immediately caught my eye, too. The mother and daughter have different last names and no father was mentioned, so I suspect the likelihood is high that there isn't one. Sad.

This should come as no surprise, the Liberals have, over the last 45 years, done all in their power through the welfare and family court systems (ie no fault divorce and the "tender years" doctrine blatantly favoring mother custody of the kids in divorce cases) to remove the father as a presence in the home.

It also isn't an accident that the person who called the cops was a female principal. We seem to have trained far too many US women to call the police about EVERYTHING these days. We seem to be turing the police into therapists and babysitters and not the lawmen they once were.

If the women of America were ALL more like Sarah Palin--who would only call the police to report an actual crime--then, dammit, this country would be a MUCH better place!
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Yes...the ills in our society can be attributed to the darn liberals...they have enjoyed a monopoly at all levels in the legislature and judiciary. I think society has become very liberal and our laws reflect that fact.Palin would give the student a stern talking to, gosh darn it!
 
Originally Posted By: jeffoYou think a detention is going to fix this?
Wake up! Kids are out of control. Parents aren't doing their jobs.

Can't argue with you there...
 
Originally Posted By: HunterBear71Yes...the ills in our society can be attributed to the darn liberals...they have enjoyed a monopoly at all levels in the legislature and judiciary. I think society has become very liberal and our laws reflect that fact.Palin would give the student a stern talking to, gosh darn it!

I think I'll agree with you HB
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Just think, the whole education system that takes your kids and indoctrinates them 5 days a week is made up of clones/clowns like this. The coming generations are going to be so stupid that they will think this is appropriate. They will also probably believe that the media tells the truth, and politicans don't lie and socialism is very good.
 
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