17 hmr - will it become obselete?

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demonband2000

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I am interested in a 17 hmr, I know this gun has been around for only a couple years. Does it have staying power or is it just a trend?

I hate to buy it and then 5 years down the road not be able to find ammo.

I have a 22 mag, is it worth the improvement
 
My Marlin 17 is a tad more accurate than my Marlin 22mag. But for hunting, I stick w/ the 22mag. Now for flat out hitting what you're shooting at oh..like say...lizards at 100 yds...Get a 17. I've set up clothespins on the 100 line at the range and gone ten for ten. That's w/ a $200 Marlin rifle.. and a Simmons Aetec, sweet. I know it'll never be obsolete. It's too good of a round.
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.17HMR will be around for ever. It outperforms the .22mag and with the ballistic tips on such a light bullet makes for some explosive effects. I've found the CCI TNT hollowpoints go right through gophers without expanding much at all.
 
I too think it is here to stay . The mach 2 may jsut be a fad I have not heard near the talk about it as I do the HMR. The way the west is growing the .17 is about the only rifle you can shoot at varmints anymore. We have to travel 3 hours north to get into big rifle territory. As much 17 ammo as I buy I probably could keep them afloat myself /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
 
I hope not. Just picked one up last week and am very impressed. It's a Savage synthetic heavy barrel and the synthetic stock actually doesn't look that bad except being a little to small. I threw a 3-9x Bushnell rimfire on it and a Rifle Basix sear.
It fired an inch group at 100 yds on shots 7-10 out of the box and uncleaned. Once I put on a larger scope later this week, break in the barrel, find it's preferred ammo, and get more accustomed to such a light trigger I'm sure I'll be hugging the 1/2 inch groups. Buy one. Ryan
 
We had this talk today sort of, all the new calibers out now like no time in my life I can remember. The 17HMR will probably be around forever because it's an accurate round and very fun to shoot. Some of the others will not be so lucky like the 300rsaum. Even the short magnums by win. are living on borrowed time. Why? Because they did nothing ballisticly that wasn't already available but the 17HMR did bring something new and that will keep it alive and well.
 
The 17 hmr is here to stay in MHO. Picked a Marlin 917 up recently, what a fun little gun. I love it. I've only shot one squirrel with it so far. This past weekend I took extra days off to put a dent in the population and we had the worst weather we've had in a year. It rained or snowed every day. Not complaining about the moisture but did it have to come on my squirrel days. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/angry-smiley-055.gif
 
Give the M2 the same time as the hmr has had and you'll see just as much about it as the hmr, maybe more, ammo is cheaper and it shoots just as accurate and as flat to 100yds+....You just need to spend some time at RFC to see the popularity of the M2...They're both here to stay and I would expect the 22mag to die before either will, if any rimfire is going to fade away, which I doubt will happen. As soon as Marlin gets a semi-auto 717M2 in production, the semi-auto crowd will be happy, that's where the big hole is in the 17M2 offerings....

http://rimfirecentral.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=131
 
I haven't cleaned my Savage heavy barrel yet (except when I bought it) and the first 200 rounds are still accurate. By accurate I mean 5 shots under an inch at 100 yds as fast as I can work the bolt, with any 17 grain ammo. Todd
 
The 17HMR is wildly popular and going nowhere. I just wish people would quit comparing it to the 22mag. These 2 cartridges are both rimfires and both based on the same case and THAT'S IT! I know there's not anything else to compare it to, but they are about as similar as a 243 and a 358 or 25-06 and 35 Whelen IMHO. I shoot 50 gr into sub half-inch groups with mine. How is this similar to a 17?Tom64, I'm surprised on your thoughts on the short magnums. Yeah, the Rsaum aren't looking too good, but the 270 and 300wsm are selling like crazy. They may not offer better ballistics, but they offer shorter, lighter, stiffer actions/rifles with more efficient, beltless rounds. I wouldn't bet on the new 325wsm though.--2MG
 
Took the Marlin 917 thunderstick out this evening to shoot some rockchucks. IN-FRIGGIN-CREDIBLE. Point of aim, point of impact darn near. Once they got hit, they went down for the long count. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ooo.gif Am I happy with the gun and cartridge /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused1.gif? Heck yeah /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grinning-smiley-003.gif.
 
I agree that the .17 won't be going anywhere...not too sure about the statement that the WSM's are going to die anytime soon. Check your ballistics tables, as the WSM's are way more flat shooting than the standard rounds of the same caliber. That is the reason that the SAUM is gone, because it didn't do anything better.
 
Guys I hope I don't start another war here, I tend to be very opinionated can you tell? First I hope I'm wrong and they all live longer than my kids kids. But the difference between a 300 win mag and a 300 wsm is minimal in velocity, yes you get a lighter, shorter, more efficient gun that kicks more but one will do the same as the other. The 17hmr on the other hand is accurate, unique, and pleasant to shoot by anybody and I can think of no other cartridge that compares to it except the 17 cooper but it's a centerfire. That was my point in which I think the 17hmr will have a long life, wasn't trying to dog the others just making a point.
 
I love my hmr , we cant get enough of them in england, but the hm2 isnt selling, why use a noisy little round, when you can use the hmr?, granted our situation is a bit different, as we use silenced .22,s hardly anyone shoots anything but subsonics in a .22 here, so we love the hmr.
 
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Check your ballistics tables, as the WSM's are way more flat shooting than the standard rounds of the same caliber. That is the reason that the SAUM is gone, because it didn't do anything better.


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SHOW ME

Looking at my Hodgon reloading manual the
300WM beats the 300WSM over 100 fps with 165s or the 180s /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused1.gif
 
This is off Winchester's website:
270 WSM 130 gr Ballistic Silvertip:
Distance (yds) Muzzle 50 100 200 300 400 500
Velocity (fps) 3275 - 3041 2820 2609 2408 2215
Distance (yds) Muzzle 50 100 200 300 400 500
Energy (ft. lbs.) 3096 - 2669 2295 1964 1673 1416
Distance (yds) 50 100 150 200 250 300
Short Trajectory (in.) -0.3 0 -0.6 -2.3 -5.0 -8.9
Distance (yds) 100 150 200 250 300 400 500
Long Trajectory (in.) 1.1 1.1 0 -2.2 -5.5 -16.1 -32.8


270 Win 130 gr Ballistic Silvertip:

Distance (yds) Muzzle 50 100 200 300 400 500
Velocity (fps) 3050 - 2828 2618 2416 2224 2040
Distance (yds) Muzzle 50 100 200 300 400 500
Energy (ft. lbs.) 2685 - 2309 1978 1685 1428 1202
Distance (yds) 50 100 150 200 250 300
Short Trajectory (in.) -0.2 0 -0.8 -2.8 -6.1 -10.7
Distance (yds) 100 150 200 250 300 400 500
Long Trajectory (in.) 1.4 1.3 0 -2.6 -6.5 -18.9 -38.4


As for the 300's (also off Winchester):
300 Win 180 gr Ballistic Silvertip:
Distance (yds) Muzzle 50 100 200 300 400 500
Velocity (fps) 2950 - 2764 2586 2415 2250 2092
Distance (yds) Muzzle 50 100 200 300 400 500
Energy (ft. lbs.) 3478 - 3054 2673 2331 2023 1749
Distance (yds) 50 100 150 200 250 300
Short Trajectory (in.) -0.2 0 -0.9 -3 -6.5 -11.3
Distance (yds) 100 150 200 250 300 400 500
Long Trajectory (in.) 1.5 1.4 0 - 2.7 -6.7 -19.4 -38.9

300WSM 180 gr Ballistic Silvertip:
Distance (yds) Muzzle 50 100 200 300 400 500
Velocity (fps) 3010 - 2822 2641 2468 2301 2141
Distance (yds) Muzzle 50 100 200 300 400 500
Energy (ft. lbs.)3621 - 3182 2788 2434 2116 1832
Distance (yds) 50 100 150 200 250 300
Short Trajectory (in.) -0.2 0 -0.9 -2.9 -6.1 -10.7
Distance (yds) 100 150 200 250 300 400 500
Long Trajectory (in.) 1.4 1.3 0 -2.5 -6.4 -18.6 -37.3

Not trying to start a war or anything, but this is why the WSM's have come on so strong and people keep buying them.

I used factory loads just because a lot of people don't handload, but the same still holds true if you compare apples to apples.

(Sorry the tables don't line up, but couldn't fix it after cutting and pasting it)
 
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