1970's Savage 22-250 Barrel Throat???

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seagiant

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Hi,
Getting ready to load up my first rounds for this old rifle...

Checked OAL of cartridge with a Hornady gauge, and...

When the ogive hit the lands the bullet was completely out of the case and about a 1/16" of the push rod, sticking out.

Admittedly, this is a 55 gr. flat base bullet, but that seems like a hec of a jump?

Wondering if anyone has any ideas on this???
 
sounds like a shot out throat (22-250 is known for that),
you should be twisted 1-14" so the 55 gr fb is fine. you could order a drop in barrel from several barrel manufacture. or have your barrel set back.
 
Yeah if its a 70's Manufactuer and been shot quite a bit I'd bet money on throat just being gone. The caliber is known to errode throats. Great caliber though and it is a beast on varmints worth a barrel change no doubt.
 
LOL just so you Know I feel your pain I have a Remington 722, built in 1957 (july) in 244 Remington aka 6mm Remington that I need to rebarrel because the throat is gone ....
 
Hi,
Thanks, I have a small shop, with a lathe and mill.

Would the rifle be more accurate, if I just rebarrel it like a Remington, and got rid of the barrel nut?
 
Like Sgt. Mike said, it sure sounds like the throat is toast but until you bore scope or do a chamber cast, its hard to say. As far as barrel nut vs not using one, I'm sure that will be debated. Sure works good for Savage and others that use them. But if your confident using your lathe, I would true the face of your action and use a precision ground recoil lug. Sure wouldn't hurt anything. The main advantage of a barrel nut is it cuts out the expense of having a barrel chambered and threaded and you can/could have multiple barrels for one action.
 
Hi,
Thanks, I talked to a "Savage Guru" and he told me to load up some ammo at the OAL book spec and try the rifle out.

Said factory Savage barrels have a long throat to begin with and I maybe surprised.

Guess that will tell the tale, before spending money!

Thanks again!
 
Clean the rifle, load 50-55 gr bullets to specified length and + 0.025 longer. Typically with factory barrels I have seen col + 0.025 and Varget/H4895 to work very well. Xmax and ballistic tips for long throats.
 
Hi,
Thanks, that's what I have is H4895 powder to use.

I will try that, if it gives me decent tension, on the bullet.

Admittedly, there are better bullets, than what I have, but...
 
Originally Posted By: seagiantHi,
Admittedly, there are better bullets, than what I have, but...

I shoot 55gr. flat base Hornady Spire Points out of my 788 Remington 22-250, I have found them to be extremely accurate.
Unless you are getting into bench rest accuracy where there are many other variables beside the bullet, I have been reloading those flat base HSP's for various guns and various calibers for many years with excellent results.
Some barrels also have freebore, I don't know about Savage but someone one here will know if that's another possibility.
 
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Originally Posted By: SixsixtyMags Originally Posted By: seagiantHi,
Admittedly, there are better bullets, than what I have, but...

I shoot 55gr. flat base Hornady Spire Points out of my 788 Remington 22-250, I have found them to be extremely accurate.
Unless you are getting into bench rest accuracy where there are many other variables beside the bullet, I have been reloading those flat base HSP's for various guns and various calibers for many years with excellent results.
Some barrels also have freebore, I don't know about Savage but someone one here will know if that's another possibility.

Hi,
Thanks, the 55 grainers I have are bulk bullets I bought for my AR-15 to practice CQB Drills.

How well they will work for paper at extended ranges I have no idea.

I have a friend with a Bore Scope and we are going to look at the Throat hopefully tomorrow.

We shall see!

Thanks again!
 
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I'm a old Remington Fan... Stay with that barrel Nut it makes for a great switch barrel/caliber system. just my opinion of course that is if you rebarrel it may shoot well enough to suit you.. then life is good...

I'm looking at using a Alternut (Shilen's version of a remage Barrel) barrel for my old 722 if that tells you anything.. think about it ... with the nut you can chase the throat on a setback.
 
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If you scope the barrel and find it toasted, I wouldn't spend the money setting a factory barrel back. Your going to spend close to if not the same money as a chamber job. May as well use that money on a new barrel. That same money will probably buy you a prefit.
 
Originally Posted By: pyscodogIf you scope the barrel and find it toasted, I wouldn't spend the money setting a factory barrel back. Your going to spend close to if not the same money as a chamber job. May as well use that money on a new barrel. That same money will probably buy you a prefit.

agree!!!!
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but it is your gun. AND until you shoot it, that will tell the tale if you can't find joy i'd rebarrel, if you do i'd shoot it until i had no more joy then rebarrel.

I'd do the drop in aka prefit in the orginal 1-14 or maybe speed the twist up to 1-12". but I am biased as I'd shoot P dogs and such with it.
only real tools needed is a savage wrench, action vise, and headspace gauge (of course remove the ejector, reinstall after setting Headspace)... wwaaalllaaa done

My comment about doing a setback was saying IF you rebarreled with the nut system that allows you to chase the throat easier than the remington method.
 
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Hi,
Took the rifle this morning to my Gunsmith Buddy and looked at the throat with a nice Bore Scope....

Yea, she's gone, but I'm going to go to the range and just see what she does at 100 yds. for my own education.

I have a mill and lathe so will probably just rebarrel it myself, and do it with a new straight recoil lug and shouldered barrel, Remington style.

Will have to make a few tools As I want to face the front of the receiver but, I'm retired and this is what I enjoy!
 
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