22-250 rem 700 VTR load needed

danb303

danb303

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I just got a vtr and would like to know where to start. I loaded up some varget and 53 gr SMKs and it didnt seem to like anything in the range I tried.

I have some 4064 and win 760 to try also. I have lots of 50-55 gr Nosler varmageddons and BT, Hornady, vmax and zmax. Etc.

Also. I have read that 250's don't like to be near the lands. Any comments?

Thanks
 
Originally Posted By: danb303I just got a vtr and would like to know where to start. I loaded up some varget and 53 gr SMKs and it didnt seem to like anything in the range I tried.

I have some 4064 and win 760 to try also. I have lots of 50-55 gr Nosler varmageddons and BT, Hornady, vmax and zmax. Etc.

Also. I have read that 250's don't like to be near the lands. Any comments?

Thanks

For my Savage 12 I worked up to 32.5 grains of IMR 4895 with COAL of 2.370" with a 55gr Nosler BT.That model 12 has a really tight chamber so I just kept it there. My model 11 savage doesn't care what load you put in it, its not very picky at all. I don't have my notes in front of me at the moment but I have loaded some Hornady vmax and nosler BT with IMR 4064 for that model 11 and had great groups no matter where the bullet is seated. YMMV.
 
danb303, I checked my notes when I got home and I loaded 55 gr vmax to 34.5 gr(caution as 34.9 is shown as max load in the manual) of IMR 4064 with case length set at 2.395". Loaded 50 gr and 55 gr Nosler BT with 33.5 gr of IMR 4064 with case length set to 2.410". These are loads I worked up in my guns so as I said before YMMV. Be safe and happy shooting. Let us know the load you work up.
 
Mine seems to shoot with about anything. My current load is AR Comp with the same bullet 53gr Sierra or the 52gr Berger and I believe I am .010 off the lands.
I only took my VTR out once last year and shot it once. It worked.
 
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Originally Posted By: danb303
"... Also. I have read that 250's don't like to be near the lands. Any comments?

Thanks"



Yup... not true.

I have shot all of my 22-250s (6 of them) with bullets into the lands.

 
Originally Posted By: CatShooterOriginally Posted By: danb303
"... Also. I have read that 250's don't like to be near the lands. Any comments?

Thanks"



Yup... not true.

I have shot all of my 22-250s (6 of them) with bullets into the lands.



CatShooter, in a previous post about loading .22-250 you had your case length at 2.510", if you don't mind me asking, what kind of rifle were you shooting that in? Did it start out shorter and end up that long over time or that's just where you started loading it?
 
Originally Posted By: crazyfox270Originally Posted By: CatShooterOriginally Posted By: danb303
"... Also. I have read that 250's don't like to be near the lands. Any comments?

Thanks"



Yup... not true.

I have shot all of my 22-250s (6 of them) with bullets into the lands.



CatShooter, in a previous post about loading .22-250 you had your case length at 2.510", if you don't mind me asking, what kind of rifle were you shooting that in? Did it start out shorter and end up that long over time or that's just where you started loading it?

Nope... it is a fairly new rifle for me... I bought it 3 years ago to get the receiver. I put it in the back of my closet for a a project in the future.

It is a Remington heavy barreled 700 VSF in 22-250.


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They have a fluted heavy barrel, in a real nice aluminum bedding block, H-S varmint stock, with Tan and Spyderweb paint.

It was made in November 2005, and the owner had an "expert gunsmith" replace the very good Remington trigger with a Timney and he screwed that up... and then the "smith" glass bedded it - it looked real pretty, but it was a disaster - the smallest group the kid got out of it was 3".

He took it back to the "smith", and the the SOB said, "Well, then it must have a bad barrel - I see it all the time with those Remingtons."

So the rifle sat in the kid's closet until 2010, and I bought it from him cuz the action was the finest, tightest, most beautiful Remington 700 action I had seen in 50 years - so it was gonna be a donor for a future project... and the stock was a bonus. He had fired ~45 rounds through it. It came with the empty cases, and it was squeekie clean.

I paid ~$500 for the whole thing

I shot it when I brought it home, and the smallest group I got was around 2-3/4"

When I pulled it apart, it turned out that the "smith" that set the rifle up and glassed it, did a cosmetically beautiful job - it looked very impressive - but mechanically, it was a horrible job... the action was loose over the stock by 4 or 5 thou, and if you put your right thumb on the tang, and pushed down on the barrel with your left hand, you could feel the tang move up and down.... WITH THE ACTION SCREWS TIGHT!!!

I fixed that crapola

I have tested some loads, and it now has about 125 rounds through it. I have my final set of test loads to shoot next week. I'm just waiting for a new Jewell trigger to arrive on the 10th (that's what the tracking number says
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It has shot a number of groups in the mid to low threes.

So the barrel is essentially brand new.

Many factory rifles have long throats - whether it's the lawyers or something else, it is one of the things that reloaders have to deal with.

I'm gonna write a page on the rifle when it is finished, and it's all ready to slaughter poor widdle woodchucks..

 
Originally Posted By: danb303Also. I have read that 250's don't like to be near the lands. Any comments?


Not true.




Travis
 
Originally Posted By: venaticMine seems to shoot with about anything. My current load is AR Comp with the same bullet 53gr Sierra or the 52gr Berger and I believe I am .010 off the lands.
I only took my VTR out once last year and shot it once. It worked.



Any issues hunting with those SMK's match grade bullets?
 
Honestly I have not shot enough of the 53gr Sierra's to say one way or the other. This particular coyote was shot facing me at about 100 yards and there was no exit and it dropped at the shot. I shot one feral hog as well and it also did fine but it was a head shot. Now I can say the 52gr Berger Target bullets have done a good job as I have several years experience and quite a few kills with them.
 
I shot 2 dogs broadside last year with the 52smk out of my savage 22-250 both had about 1 1/2 exit hole. One was at 60 yards the other 130yards
 
Cat - I have the same gun I bought a few years ago for a donor action and stock and I haven't shot it much because I have 5 other 22-250's. It shot pretty good so I was thinking I might just leave it alone. When I took it out to get it on paper there was a factory load that all went thru the same hole. I haven't shot many reloads thru it yet. I was wondering what loads you were having good luck with
 
Originally Posted By: 10BearsCat - I have the same gun I bought a few years ago for a donor action and stock and I haven't shot it much because I have 5 other 22-250's. It shot pretty good so I was thinking I might just leave it alone. When I took it out to get it on paper there was a factory load that all went thru the same hole. I haven't shot many reloads thru it yet. I was wondering what loads you were having good luck with

My final test loads are 37.5 Varget, and 36.2 of 8208.

50gr SBK seated to touch... both loads have shot several groups under 0.35".

I was really surprised at the accuracy of it. It turned out to be a keeper.

Both loads are around 3750 fps.

 
Originally Posted By: 10BearsThanks Cat - I might give them a try. The one load that showed some promise was H4895 and 50gr Vmax

4895 (any of them) have always been a classic powder for the 22-250. It would be hard to go wrong with it.
 
Does the varget seem to do better at the top of the load? It seems like I read that it likes either at the low end or on the high end. ???
 
Originally Posted By: danb303Does the varget seem to do better at the top of the load? It seems like I read that it likes either at the low end or on the high end. ???

That is a myth.
 


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