.224 valkyrie ??? thoughts?

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skindaddy

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been here awhile started to get to learn a little about ar's but never been able to buy rest of gun, as things always came up. but now looking again and considering a .224 why idk sounds neat something different and factory loads available.
something differnet then a .223 which is sure cheaper to shoot, but really i dont shoot 1,000's of rounds like some do.
anyone have thoughts on this like anything being i know squat?
also i've always wanted to get a Dtech upper but again never been able to any thoughts on that?
any certain configuration you would order?
thanks
 
For a first ar15 I think I’d get a fast twist barrel in 223 wylde or 5.56 and shoot the 77 grain match kings. Or the 75 Hornady hpbt. That’s good to 600 yards target shooting. Farther than that the valkrie shooting the 90smk would be better ballistically. All depends if you reload and how much money you want to spend, and how much you shoot. Thing is once you get 1 ar15 guys usually end up with a few before long. Like varminter .223 said, it depends on you intended use for the rifle. Gonna get a bunch of opinions though. As far as the dtech barrel, I think it’s a solid choice. I’m wanting one of there barrels myself. Them or white oak again.
 
Originally Posted By: varminter .223What do you intend to do with the rifle? Intended max distance?


Exactly. That is the first question that I pose to any customer that wants me to build them a rifle. What are you going to use it for. It changes what we build and the way we build it.
 
Combination some target shooting and smaller gun shooting anything smaller than a deer.
Distances won't be in excess unless traveled out of state which will be rare

Won't be worrying about catching the bug, my tiny wallet will control that. Lol
 
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I would recommend the 22 Nosler before the Valkyrie if you want a varmimt/coyote killing laser out to 400. Ammo will be harder to find than .223 and more expensive but quite a bit faster round. I think you've just gotta weigh cost against extra speed. The Valkyrie is a slower round because of the long high bc bullets which it is built around. I don't see any advantage unless you are shooting at extended ranges. The 22 Nosler about as fast and flat as you are gonna get in a production ar 22 cal round.
 
A hot 556 load will do about anything you want in a hand load but for OTC convenience the Nosler would get my not. More varmint weight bullets that are usable plus higher velocity because of an increased case capacity. Both MAX at 55,000 so big case wins every time in that area.

Greg
 
to be clear not arguing as i know little about specifics here just asking
but some of the charts i looked at like one on firearms blog shows at 400yds it has more velocity,energy. also less drift, drop is about equal at that distance.
all between .224, 22 nosler,.223 wylde, 6.5 grendel


say i went either 22 nosler or the 224 other than dtech what would you say?
 
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I don't what barrel length you are wanting or what grain bullet you want to shoot but in varmint weight bullets none of the cartridges you listed will be as flat as the 22 Nosler if you leave some barrel length. I prefer 22".
I shoot 55s at 3500 fps out of mine. Less than 6" of drop at 300 yards. If that wont do the job on coyotes and smaller critters then nothing will. I have experimented with some 223 loads in my 24 inch heavy barrel AR and I can't get anywhere near that in velocity. Most cartridges are with in an inch or so of drop out to 300. At 400 they start to spread out a bit and beyond that you better have a good rangefinder and know your drops and drift which I do not. My brain likes to shut off when a coyote shows so the laser wins for me everytime. It doesnt matter how big of a chunk of lead you throw at a critter if you dont hit em.

If you reload look at the 6x6.8 or 6 dti.
You have a huge selection of bullet weights and types to choose from with the 6's and it is as fast as the 22 Nosler with the right powders.
 
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Originally Posted By: SnowmanMoOriginally Posted By: varminter .223What do you intend to do with the rifle? Intended max distance?


Exactly. That is the first question that I pose to any customer that wants me to build them a rifle. What are you going to use it for. It changes what we build and the way we build it. I see what u did there, sneaky....
 
ok those who buy factory ammo where are you purchasing it from. you guys got me pointed toward the nosler, now i dont see much for sale. most i found on one website was selection of 2 both premium loadds
 
I think the 224 valk is just a fancy name. They shortened the 6.8 case to make it!!!! the 6.8 case is already a very minimal increase over the 223 without shortening it. While yes it fires a sleek bullet with less wind drift. the bullet doesn't have much energy left when it gets there. I simply think they are trying to get too much out of the limited cartridges that are available. instead I would rather federal who I think is pimping the Valkyrie, had used the grendel case, OR come up with something totally new. a grendel case with rebated rim? another case with even more compacity? all those are better options if you ask me.

if you need to shoot far enough for the valk, just get an AR 10 in 6.5 creedmooor.
 
Originally Posted By: skindaddyok those who buy factory ammo where are you purchasing it from. you guys got me pointed toward the nosler, now i dont see much for sale. most i found on one website was selection of 2 both premium loadds

I reload but the factory Nosler stuff goes on sale at Midway now and then.
 
Try the Nosler site. I recommend the 62 grain Varmageddon load that comes #50 in a box ($35.00 on sale). They are accurate in my upper and dump coyotes without any issues. Great on smaller varmints as well.

22 Nosler - 62 Grain
 


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