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OKRattler

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I've been throwing around the idea of getting a rifle built. I just don't know exactly what I want but the 22x47 has caught my attention. The only thing I don't know is if it would add much of an advantage to the 22-250 I already have. I'd like something that doesn't have a ton of recoil so I can keep in the scope and get on other targets quicker. I plan on it being a varmint/predator and hog killin rifle. I might be better off with a AR-10 of some sort. What are y'alls thoughts on it?
 
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22x47L will run right with the 22-250 AI.
Awsome cartridge. If your rig is heavy enough you can see hits, but usually bumps you just enough out of the scope. I love it.

If I were building a new one today, I would build the 22 Creedmoor. Brass from Hornady, Starline, not just Lapua. Dies are going to be easier and a bit cheaper also.

The Creedmoor is a little bit longer version of the x47L case all other things being equal, but with commercial support. The x47L is awsome, but specific to Lapua brass and high end die makers. In the near future 22 Creedmoor will be on the shelf loaded ammo, and rifles.

Fast twist it and be happy.
 
That's the rumor. At any rate, brass necked down from 6 Creedmoor is easy enough. With the 22x47L you will neck it down from 6.5. Not a hard choice.
 
Originally Posted By: OKRattlerHow would the .224 Valkyrie do compared to the .22 Creedmoor?

Not even close. The Valkyrie only holds .7 grains more water than a common 223. That's like comparing a 22 hornet to a 22-250. The 22 Creedmoor capacity is almost exactly the same as the 22-243.
 
I’m glad to have mine, running the 80.5 Berger at 3345 from a 22” barrel. Necking the brass down was quite a chore, and unless you want to spend a fortune on dies I’d just do a 22 Creed.

If there’s small primer 22 Creedmoor stamped brass available when I rebarrel, I’ll go that route.
 
I had no idea there was that much difference between the Valkyrie and .22 Creedmoor. From everything I've seen on the Valkyrie I was believing it's one of the best available. I'd like to have something that'd dump a hog with a hit to the body but I know that's asking a lot from a .22 caliber of any sort.
 
Originally Posted By: R JohnsonOriginally Posted By: OKRattlerHow would the .224 Valkyrie do compared to the .22 Creedmoor?

Not even close. The Valkyrie only holds .7 grains more water than a common 223. That's like comparing a 22 hornet to a 22-250. The 22 Creedmoor capacity is almost exactly the same as the 22-243.

I saw that 223 is 30.9 max h2o and the Valkyrie was 34.5 to fill? Different sources but that’s what I found out. Pressures aside I was seeing the 224V as a 223AI plus a few fps
 
Originally Posted By: CZ527I don’t actually care what the headstamp says. I just meant that if I didn’t have to modify it in any way.

There is minimal case prep to turn a 6 Creed into a 22 Creed.....
 
Originally Posted By: liliysdadOriginally Posted By: CZ527I don’t actually care what the headstamp says. I just meant that if I didn’t have to modify it in any way.

There is minimal case prep to turn a 6 Creed into a 22 Creed.....

I’d want to turn the necks. I do it any time I neck down. That’s what I was referring to.

Except the 223, I’ve loaded nothing but wildcats for a long time and once it would be nice to buy a reasonably priced set of dies and just get after it without any extra steps.

To elaborate a little bit more, I’ve found that there’s a little more run out in necked down brass than the regular variety. Sometimes I’ve missed a good load just because I had a shot thrown out of a group because of runout- later to find that my magic load was one I’d almost overlooked because of a stray shot.

For the above reasons, I’d like to have a regular something for once.... with a small primer.

A side note about headstamprd brass...

While it means nothing to me, as I wasn’t born with a silver spoon up my [beeep], I have a friend who hunted Africa with a loaner rifle because his ammunition didn’t match his rifle. He has a 7-300 mag, and customs somewhere along the way got a little handy with his stuff and confiscated his ammunition.... dumb, I know.
 
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Here you go on the water boys. H2O don't lie. Check out the anemic 22 Valk.

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L-R 223, 22 Nosler, 22 Valkyrie, 6.5 Grendel

Greg
 
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How are they getting 31.5gr H2O with a .223, my 223AI barely holds that much water.

Really wish someone would measure the case capacity, in water, of a 22 Creedmoor but that seems to be some kind of closely regarded secret because I can't ever seem to get an answer on that. Or, maybe it's because it is a little on the small-ish side and the 22 Creedmoor shooters are embarrassed.
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Originally Posted By: B23How are they getting 31.5gr H2O with a .223, my 223AI barely holds that much water.

Really wish someone would measure the case capacity, in water, of a 22 Creedmoor but that seems to be some kind of closely regarded secret because I can't ever seem to get an answer on that. Or, maybe it's because it is a little on the small-ish side and the 22 Creedmoor shooters are embarrassed.
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I am measuring 223 as I type this. So far:
IMi 30.57
Hornady 223 31.16
Win 223 31.47
Speer (90) 30.16
Frontier 31.64
LC 05 (N) 31.16
FED 30.8

A couple tenths based on chamber size is not unusual. I have a LARGE 20 TAC that measures the same as my small 20 PRAC.

Greg
 
My Creedmoor was cut with a no turn reamer....and the bugholes its currently putting out tells me that all that mess is nothing more than mental masturbation the majority of the time.
 
Originally Posted By: liliysdadMy Creedmoor was cut with a no turn reamer....and the bugholes its currently putting out tells me that all that mess is nothing more than mental masturbation the majority of the time.

You can call it whatever you like, but if that rifle of yours truly shoots bugholes with unturned brass that’s a great. Do what you do. I think you’ll find you are in the minority as far as true bugholes accuracy goes if you’re not turning the necks.

I like to do a cleanup pass on anything I’ve got high expectations for, particularly barrel eating monsters like a 22x47 or Creedmoor. It’s worth the insurance to me that I won’t have to back up and skim the necks after I fail to find a good load the first time.

Like I said above, I found my best load in well under and hour, and I’m still shooting it. Here’s a group shot last week before I went hunting. It’s nothing phenomenal for a 100 yard group, except that it was shot at 200. I did have my buddies flags with me though, which is kinda like cheating if you’ve never used them.

 


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