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Originally Posted By: varminter .223Only advantage to the shoulder change seems to be less trimming between loadings. I still have no idea why the Hagar won't catch on..... if Hornady would just do another brass run. Everything is just chasing it with its 2 grain extra powder capacity.

The main reason why I would pick one of the 6.8 variants is more a choice of which one will be chambered properly.


Buy a Giraud and trimming is no longer an issue on anything! I agree totally that the Hagar is awesome, brass availability was the turn off for me and why I went 6.8 based.


If Hagar had brass, factory ammo and marketing it would catch on, just like the 6x6.8.


Maybe Hornady will invent them once the Crapmoore sales slow!


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