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Originally Posted By: DholsappleI’m a fan of 6mms in ars. I like to shoot both light and fast rounds at night and heavier bullets long range at steel. I have a 6x6.8 and 243lbc for each. In my opinion the 6 Hagar and the new renamed 24 varmint will have a tough time becoming popular against the 6x6.8 and 6 arc or Grendel based variants mainly because they don’t offer any advantage besides maybe a little more speed but by the speeds posted that is not seen yet. Granted there are other powders to be tested and speeds may rise. A 58vmax going 3650 vs 3750 has about 1/4 inch difference in drop at 300 yds. For me it would take more of a difference than that to be worth messing with the hard to find non existent brass or fireforming brass and searching for it through grass or corn stalks at night. But that’s just my opinion. 


We aren’t trying to compete with any other cartridge out there. The 6 arc has marketing that nothing else can even try to compete with. As I stated above, the Hagar is dead due to the lack of 30 Rem and 6.8 basic brass on the market. The advantage to the 24 Varminter is that we have barrels and dies ready to go right now. Good luck getting a 6x6.8 barrel and dies made in just a few days. The 6WOA as mentioned is another great cartridge, but even White Oak doesn’t even list is as an offering anymore. The 24 Varminter was designed to shoot light Varmint bullets because that’s what and who we are. When we approached MDWS about this idea, they were all for it and we will continue to put our names on this rebranding and stand behind it.


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