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All my loads with the 68 Berger are made up with varget so far. Tried doing some experimenting with the COAL of the 39.5 grain load, but I don't think the 68 grain bullet is long enough to find the lands. Berger gives a COAL of 2.71 and hodgmons doesn't have one for a 68 grain bullet. Thought about experimenting with hodgmons load data between the 65 grain and 70 grain. If I try a longer COAL of around 2.75 or less, you guys think this will tighten up the 200 yd grouping or is that no enough to make a difference? Thanks for the replies!