.257 ?
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75 hp or V-max at over 3500 should get about any yotes attention. Haven't gotten to try mine yet, but thats just the luck of the draw. For some reason when I carry the 223 they come running, when I've got the Bob either I don't see one or my pardner gets the shot! Like mmelon said, plan on doing some sewing!
I have had great luck with the 117 gr. Hornady Light Mags. They run 2940 fps at the muzzle. They have taken a bunch of deer and couple of coyotes. Very little damage to the coyotes, maybe a quarter size exit hole.
In one 3 day hunt to south Texas, I took a doe, a nice 8 point, a feral hog, a coyote and a javalina with it. 4 of the 5 dropped in their tracks. the 8 point only went about 30 yards.
Hornady changed from the interlock bullet to a SST recently. I have 4 boxes of the old interlock, and after that, I will try the others.
I have not tried any of the lighter bullets, but Venatic has offered to load me up some for varmint hunting. The 87 grain are supposed to be very good from what I hear. They are not offered in factory loads anymore.
In one 3 day hunt to south Texas, I took a doe, a nice 8 point, a feral hog, a coyote and a javalina with it. 4 of the 5 dropped in their tracks. the 8 point only went about 30 yards.
Hornady changed from the interlock bullet to a SST recently. I have 4 boxes of the old interlock, and after that, I will try the others.
I have not tried any of the lighter bullets, but Venatic has offered to load me up some for varmint hunting. The 87 grain are supposed to be very good from what I hear. They are not offered in factory loads anymore.
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Whats the difference in a Weatherby or Roberts? are they just the same gun with different names or are they actually different calibers?
TOTALLY different. The Weatherby is a belted magnum.
Notice how expensive Weatherby magnum ammo is.
http://www.weatherby.com/products/ammo.asp?prd_id=3
Whats the difference in a Weatherby or Roberts? are they just the same gun with different names or are they actually different calibers?
TOTALLY different. The Weatherby is a belted magnum.
Notice how expensive Weatherby magnum ammo is.
http://www.weatherby.com/products/ammo.asp?prd_id=3
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Squeeze
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They are quite different cartridges. The 257 Roberts(a.k.a
Bob, 257 Bob), is based on the 7mm Mauser, which is based on
the 8mm Mauser. The 257 Weatherby is, well, based on the
Weatherby style, with elliptical shoulders, and a big old
long case for a bunch of powder. It probably has a parent
Weatherby case, but I am not much of a Weatherby expert.
The Roberts is a mild mannered efficient cartridge, and the
Weatherby is massively overbore. The Weatherby is at the
top of the velocity heap for .257 caliber. Which is pretty
typical for Weatherby cartridges. The 257 Roberts is a
cartridge that should have been what the 243 Win is today,
because it does everything just as well as the 243 Win,
and it is an improvement over the 243 Win, in deer sized
game. But because it wasn't a 257 Win, or a 257 Rem, it
never got the marketing it should have. I have even read
accounts of old time elk guides using it, but this would
require a skilled shooter, to make it a humane choice for
elk.
Someday I will own a rifle chambered in 257 Roberts. I
doubt I will ever own a 257 Weatherby. I do own a couple
of 25-06 Rem. chambered rifles, and that is as "overbored"
as I need to go in .25 caliber.
Squeeze
Bob, 257 Bob), is based on the 7mm Mauser, which is based on
the 8mm Mauser. The 257 Weatherby is, well, based on the
Weatherby style, with elliptical shoulders, and a big old
long case for a bunch of powder. It probably has a parent
Weatherby case, but I am not much of a Weatherby expert.
The Roberts is a mild mannered efficient cartridge, and the
Weatherby is massively overbore. The Weatherby is at the
top of the velocity heap for .257 caliber. Which is pretty
typical for Weatherby cartridges. The 257 Roberts is a
cartridge that should have been what the 243 Win is today,
because it does everything just as well as the 243 Win,
and it is an improvement over the 243 Win, in deer sized
game. But because it wasn't a 257 Win, or a 257 Rem, it
never got the marketing it should have. I have even read
accounts of old time elk guides using it, but this would
require a skilled shooter, to make it a humane choice for
elk.
Someday I will own a rifle chambered in 257 Roberts. I
doubt I will ever own a 257 Weatherby. I do own a couple
of 25-06 Rem. chambered rifles, and that is as "overbored"
as I need to go in .25 caliber.
Squeeze
The .257 Roberts is a necked down 7x57. I'm so sure the 7x57 is a necked down 8mm Mauser.
If you are a handloader you'll be using the same bullets as you would for the 25-06. I assume you have a 25-06 since it's listed in your signature block. I have a Ruger #1V (V for Varminter) in 25-06 with the 24" bull barrel. A great rig. I shoot 100 grain Nosler Ballistic Tips over a full case of Retumbo powder with super results. The Roberts is a classic cartridge that seems to be making a comeback. I think if you go that route you will be happy with your purchase.
yotenaylor
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If youve already got a 25-06 stick with it. It can do everything the roberts can and a little more.
The weatherby, well, its a weatherby and is capable of doing lots more than the roberts. Its just gonna take a lot of powder to do it. Ive got data, and rounds loaded that push past the 4000 fps mark, but havent gotten to the range yet. Most likely these will be bad for the barrels longevity, but I just have to shoot at least one groundhog with one- kinda like having to smell the milk to make sure its REALLY that spoiled.
The weatherby, well, its a weatherby and is capable of doing lots more than the roberts. Its just gonna take a lot of powder to do it. Ive got data, and rounds loaded that push past the 4000 fps mark, but havent gotten to the range yet. Most likely these will be bad for the barrels longevity, but I just have to shoot at least one groundhog with one- kinda like having to smell the milk to make sure its REALLY that spoiled.
deltahunter
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If you are using it for calling only, and don't want a rifle to predator and deer hunt with, then I would get something smaller. Say between 223 and 243. It will be more pleasant to shoot and not damage as much fur.