270 vs 270 WSM - again

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bustaduck

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Hey. I know this has probably been covered pleny of times. I already ran a few searches and found some info, but not exactly what I was looking for.

Basically... I have an itch for a new deer rifle. I have a 300 Win Mag now, but I want a new gun. I have convinced my wife that my current deer rifle is worn out so I need to quickly purchase the new one before she see through that one.

Anyway. Like I said, I have the 300, but I like to shoot once in a while and the recoil and cost is painful when using the 300. I want a new gun that has a little less recoil but can still reach out and whack one. I want to start practicing and getting more comfortable shooting at slightly longer ranges. Nothing extreme, probably around 300 to 400 max.

I don't reload now, but I plan to start within the next year or so.

This is where I start to get torn between the regular 270 and the 270 WSM. I "think" that the 270 WSM may have more potential once I start to reload. But I "know" that as long as I am not reloading that there is a better variety of regular 270 ammo available. And it is slightly cheaper.

I have been going round and round about this and I need some of the wonderful members here to hit me with some opinions that will sway me to choose one over the other.

I have pretty much settled on a remmy 70 lss. Hopefully one of the LSS models with the gray stock.

So... 270 win or 270 WSM. What do you guys think?
 
Either one will work fine. If our looking for less recoil then the standard 270 will have a little less felt recoil. If recoil is a big factor in looking for a new gun you might think about the 260 Remington or the 7mm-08. Both deliver very light recoil and meet your range requirements and can be had in a Remington.
 
I have all three....270Win, WSM, and Wby. The faster you go, the stronger bullets you need if you want equal penetration. The main question is how far do you want to shoot the deer? Each step adds about 100yards as far as energy goes with normal loads. Hornady's Light Magnum stuff in .270Win is as fast as some WSM stuff. The WSM is handy in a box stand. Although the gun isn't really that much shorter, its enough that its quicker and easier to poke through the shooting slots. The advantage is gone if you don't hunt in a tightly enclosed stand. All three are more than enough gun with the right bullets. When you start reloading, there isn't a significant cost difference between the three. You will gain about 200fps with each jump in the .270 family. I really like the WSM cartridges. The 7MM is my favorite. My daughter loves her A-Bolt Hunter fld in .270WSM.
 
Unless you need to have a shorter cartridge for a particular rifle (such as the .243 WSM for the AR-15), I see no reason to jump on the WSM bandwagon.
 
BD---I've used both. Have a custom 270wsm. If you handload, and really want to get max velocity, the 270wsm would get the nod, as you can get a litle more out of it. Since you don't handload, the 270 Win would be my choice, for reasons you've already stated above.

That said, if you want a really accurate, light recoiling rifle that is fun to shoot, and my personal favorite for deer, get a 7-08 and don't look back. I can assure you that you will be happy you did......
 
Unless you are dead set on the 270 class you may try checking the .25/06. Much lighter on recoil, more than enough gun for deer, plenty of range for what you are talking about, and a normally good supply of ammo available.

Sorry, I know that wasn't on the list but just a option. Between the two give I also would stick with the .270 Win since you are not loading for it. Even if you do reload you can still work up custom loads for what you are doing and benefit there also.
 
I like the WSM myself got rid of my 270 and jsut don't miss it. My WSm will do every thing the 270 Win would and usually some better. I find the short action M10 Savage great to carry and easy to shoot, as far as recoil with my WSM handloads I find the recoil almost non existant. While the 130 Grn TSX's are not very good on yotes, they drop Mulie's like a hammer. But FWIW if you are not handloading now and if price of ammo is a factor you won't care for the WSM the ammo is pretty spendy /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif bout forty bucks a box of twenty Brass is 10 to 20% higher than 270 Win as well. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused1.gif
 
I used a 270 for 20 years, and loved the calaber and rifle. I got a short action 270WSM and fell in love and sold my old 270. I do reload, but if didn't I would still take my 270WSM. I now own a 300WSM also and really a WSM fan.
dwest
 
270 wsm ammo is just too much money IMO to warrant it over the 270 for a non-handloader.

Being he already has a 300mag, the 7-08 is still my choice. It is as good as it gets for deer hunting.....
 
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I used a 270 for 20 years, and loved the calaber and rifle. I got a short action 270WSM and fell in love and sold my old 270. I do reload, but if didn't I would still take my 270WSM. I now own a 300WSM also and really a WSM fan.
dwest



Easy up there dwest. You are going to get the "I don't
need no stinking WIZZIM" crowd all wound up /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

I have a 300 WSM, and am quite fond of this shoulder
thumper. I probably would not have purchased it, but
I won this one at a DU Banquet. Now that I have one, I
would definitely buy more. I have never been fond of
the whole belted magnum idea, for several reasons. Now with
the WSM line, and the new 375 Ruger, I can have
magnum performance, without a belted case. Life is good.

As for the original question, you have been given good
advice on the choices based on hand loading, versus
factory ammo. I would not be concerned about the 270 WSM
becoming obsolete, if that is a concern. That and the
300 WSM are going to be around for several life times to
come. Actually I am beginning to believe that both the
WSM, and the WSSM, line in some form is going to be around
for a long time. The AR-15 will carry the WSSM, even if
the Browning, and Winchester, brands stop offering rifles
chambered in WSSM. It is a perfect marriage for the AR-15
platform, if one wants to go up in power, over the 223 Rem.
I know I want a 243 WSSM upper, for one of my AR-15
receivers, in the very worst way!

Squeeze
 
I have had this same debate with myself. I am also including the .308. Actually I am leaning toward the 308. After a new 204 for the coyotes, of course. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
 
Ran this same debate for almost a year before I got the 270 wsm. A guy riding by on a fast horse will not know the differance in the win and wsm.

I reload so ammo cost is not a concern. Take a look at a Tikka, they are real shooters.
 
Thanks for all of the input. I am still on the fence, but that isn't always a bad thing. I may just keep my eye out for a decent deal and buy whichever ends up in my hands first.

Almost came home with a 270 WSM tonight. Still may go back and get it tomorrow if I wake up in the morning feeling frisky.
 
I have both the 270 WSM and the Standard 270 Winchester and if i had to make the choice between the two i would take the standard over the WSM. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused1.gif
 
Could you explain how a .270 Win and a 7MM Rem Mag of equal weights, shooting the same weight bullets, could show the 7MM Rem Mag as having less recoil?
 


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