284 action

Austin Laughlin

Austin Laughlin

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Building a new rifle, 22-284.

I’ve got a short action with a .473 bolt face that I could use for it. But if I could, I’d rather save that one and build this 284 off a spare long action I have laying around.

Is that possible? I figured if I planned on shooting some longer and heavier bullets it would, but I don’t. I’m barreling it to shoot 53-62gr. If not, I’ll just use the short action. I’ll pick another one up in a couple weeks when I need it.

Thanks in advance,

-Austin
 
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A buddy of mine built on 20 years ago or so off a short 700, iirc he sent it to Hart for the barrel. Shoots crazy good, I don't think I've ever seen p-dogs fly apart quite like it will do with 40 gr bt's.

I can't help you with the long vs short action decision. I can say that as cool as it was, he said he wouldn't do it again as he doesn't like doing that much brass work with turning necks.
 
204 AR said:
A buddy of mine built on 20 years ago or so off a short 700, iirc he sent it to Hart for the barrel. Shoots crazy good, I don't think I've ever seen p-dogs fly apart quite like it will do with 40 gr bt's.

I can't help you with the long vs short action decision. I can say that as cool as it was, he said he wouldn't do it again as he doesn't like doing that much brass work with turning necks.
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Yeah, I’ve got some work ahead of me I’m sure. I think I’ve got a way around having to turn necks though, or so I hope. I’d really like to do it off this long action if I could.

I’ve been doing some research and I’m starting to consider my barrel idea. The 53-62gr range seemed like where I would want to be. But I’m not to sure, I would like to be in the 40-53gr range really. It’ll be a short lived barrel, but I could care less. This sucker should be a laser out to 400.
 
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I'll just say, forget about the 40 vmax at those speeds, they don't make it to target. The nbt will hold up until it hits something small and fuzzy then it destroys it. I vividly remember watching a kill at about 100 yds through binoculars spotting for him and physically flinching at the hit as I thought some pieces were going to come back and splatter me.

I've never scoped his barrel and don't know what the count is, but he still has it as far as I know.
 
204 AR said:
I'll just say, forget about the 40 vmax at those speeds, they don't make it to target. The nbt will hold up until it hits something small and fuzzy then it destroys it. I vividly remember watching a kill at about 100 yds through binoculars spotting for him and physically flinching at the hit as I thought some pieces were going to come back and splatter me.

I've never scoped his barrel and don't know what the count is, but he still has it as far as I know.
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Yeah, I figured the Vmax was off the table. I ran into that exact problem with the 22-243. I pretty much run Nosler, religiously these days. Some Sierra too.

I’m excited for this one really. I’m hoping for 800-1000 rounds of life, which is just fine. That’s a hell of a pile of fur. I’ve got to get the build going first, but I think I’m going to shoot for 40s instead, and see where it lands. I’ve got to get this action deal figured out first though. Having trouble finding answers.
 
lockrotor said:
My gunsmith build a 6.5x284 years ago. And he said if he was to do it again. It would be build on the long action not the short. This was build on a Rem 700 action.
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Do you know why? I only ask to know if it was more towards a feeding issue, and/or because he wanted to shoot the longer heavier bullets?

I decided last night I’m going to barrel it for the 40-53gr range. If I can get away doing that with this long action then I will, but I don’t want it to be a contradicting problem.
 
His complaint was with the overall length. A long action would work better and not restricted to OAL. And his gun was strictly for whitetail deer. No coyotes, unless one just happened to show up.
 
lockrotor said:
His complaint was with the overall length. A long action would work better and not restricted to OAL. And his gun was strictly for whitetail deer. No coyotes, unless one just happened to show up.
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Oh, alright. I understand then. I greatly appreciate that tip, thank you much. Maybe I’ll be alright with this long action then. It was a Rem 700 30-06. I bought two of them in a package deal, because I needed one to build my 6-06 Ackley off of. I don’t have any use for this other, and really wanted to use it up.
 
I think you'd be happier with the long action. My 6-284 is on a Nesika T. Which has a loading port about .250 longer than a SA 700. I shoot 55's out of it and it's just long enough to extract a loaded round through the port. If I were using much longer bullets, I might have to pull the bolt to extract a loaded round.

- DAA
 
My 6.5X284 is long action and needs to be because of how long the 6.5 bullets are. You can probably get away with a short action with .22 cal. bullets. If you load the wagon 800-1000 rds might be a stretch. I started seeing throat erosion at 80 rds on my 6.5.
 
Here's a question on barrel life for those of you with experience with these hotrods. Honest question.

What's worse for a throat, something like a 22-250 that's loaded to the nuts to get max speed, therefore max pressure and heat?

OR a bigger round, say 22-243, 22-6mm, that's backed off for less overall pressure, but still burns more powder and still runs a little faster but not nearly to the top end?
 
My 6-284 is built on a SA Rem 700 but it only has a 12tw and I shoot 75gr Vmax. I have a 6.5-284 with a 8tw and is long throated to shoot the 140-156's that is built on a LA Rem 700. The way my 6-284 was built I wouldn't use anything but a short action and the way my 6.5-284 is set up I wouldn't use anything but a long action.

There is zero need to use anything but a short action for a 22-284 build if it will be spec'd for shooting 40-53gr bullets. A short action will give you plenty of OAL with the 40-53's.

FWIW, a 22-284 even with its big boiler room case capacity, at reasonable pressures, isn't going to shoot all that much faster then a 22-250 or 220 Swift and you'll be using 10-15gr more powder. After you get about so overbore it starts being a matter of dimensioning returns. Not trying to change your mind but rather food for thought. You don't see many 22-284's but generally folks that build them do so to shoot the heavy for caliber bullets not the light to middle weight bullets.

If you do decide to build one I'd highly recommend using the very slowest twist you can use that'll stabilize the bullets you plan to use. Heat and bullet RPM will be something you'll want to keep in mind when spec'ing your barrel twist rate.
 
I surely appreciate all the tips and the advice. I think I’m going to go ahead and use this long action, if I ever decide to shoot the heavier for caliber bullets (which is a snowballs chance in hells flames but never know) than I can rebarrel for the twist rate and already have a LA.

I understand the point of diminishing return thing. I’ve got a swift, and have had a 22-250 AI, and a 22-243. This project isn’t being built to “make sense”. It’s something I want to tinker with and push the limits of a caliber, about like everything else I do.
 


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