3 groove barrel vs 6 groove barrel

I've had two Remington 1903A3's with two groove barrels that shot very well and in the 80's there was a popular barrel maker among Texas high power rifle competitors they referred to as The Greek who turned out some mighty fine three groove barrels. I never heard his name, must have been hard to pronounce.

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hm
 
Pretty much preference.

I like 4 and 6 groove. They work well for me.

Some top smith's say that odd groove barreles don't ream as well or as true as even grooved. That's reason enough for me. In the end, a good barrel is a good barrel.
 
A barrel maker offers 3 groove and 6 groove and I was curious as to which was better or if one was even better than the other.
 
The Greek had a shop in Tulsa. It was a tough name. I watched him rifle a couple when I visited him.

As I understand it odd groove barrels are less disruptive of the bullets while engraving and pressures are a bit better.

Greg
 
Nickopopalas comes to mind.

Greg

Looking around this is who I belive might be him.

Steve “Greek” Vaniadis


 
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In recent years, 4 groove have been dominant in benchrest.

Why? Probably because the best shooters happened to be shooting them. Just a guess.
 
From what I could find, he passed away in 2010 but worked as a smith for Nowlin's gunshop. Seems he had a pretty good reputation as a smith. Interesting.
 
Originally Posted By: pyscodogFrom what I could find, he passed away in 2010 but worked as a smith for Nowlin's gunshop. Seems he had a pretty good reputation as a smith. Interesting.

The obit I read gave that year as the date.

I met him in the late 70's when I needed some parts for a sight on one of my 45's that I used in IHMSA. He was doing a lot of work for the steel bangers back then.

Later I became good friends with John Nowlin in early 80's when he bold me a couple race guns for IPSC. The Greek must have started working with him later in the 90's after I left Oklahoma. John always spoke highly of him.

Greg
 
Originally Posted By: pyscodogI know some older guys around town, I'll see if they remember his name.

Bad plan, Bill, us "older guys" can't remember easy names, let alone the tough ones.
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hm
 
Originally Posted By: hm1996Originally Posted By: pyscodogI know some older guys around town, I'll see if they remember his name.

Bad plan, Bill, us "older guys" can't remember easy names, let alone the tough ones.
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hm

Hee Hee!

I have a few of both three and four groove barrels, the three groove seem to be faster barrels. I just got in a three groove 3 R chambered in six dasher, this is going to be interesting.

A Pac Nor three groove Stainless match in 7 stw and a 257 Weatherby both that have zero freebore are so fast I will not mention the numbers off the Ohler 35.

Four groove barrels are popular because bench rest gunsmiths can align the lands with their four jaw chucks as an aid in getting the barrels dialed in easier.

The vast majority of custom barrels that I have ever shot were six groove button barrels, Hart more than any, Shilen second.

 
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My 3 groove's have seemed to be faster compared to other grooves in the exact same chamberings. cut vs button rifle is probably best left for another thread.
 
I have one 3 groove (Mullerworks) and it is a hammer. I don't feel as though the groove count has anything to do with that...more of the fact it is a quality barrel put together by a top-notch gunsmith, Chad Dixon.

My other customs are 4 and 5 grooves...all shoot well. No seemingly obvious advantage.
 


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