They’re modern states with real institutions, economies, militaries, and global ties—dealing with corruption, pressure, conflict, and ideology just like America. We’re not exactly as pure as we like to believe either.
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I thought we were done with the shenanigans and back to putting America first. Instead, we’re out here like a monkey with a grenade on the global stage, lol.
IDK, but the threat "Death to America" at the very least is meant to encourage hostilities to our nation; letting Iran continue developing the means to back up this threat is insane, akin to handing someone a pistol who has just threatened to kill you or yours. Iranian backed incursions on homeland
Dang good question.
I do believe that the pause has encouraged Iran to push the limits and, as has been stated, I'm sure they are using the time to resupply and reorganize.
Probably, that and concern for civilian collateral damage which would result from expanded hostilities.
What’s ironic is how narratives shift. The 9/11 hijackers were all but one from countries we consider allies, but the operation itself was organized and trained through al-Qaeda’s network in Afghanistan under Taliban protection.
That’s the recurring problem—these threats don’t respect neat national boundaries, but the narratives about them always get forced back into them.
Tehran is a major capital with industry, universities, infrastructure, and a functioning government system. Gaza, what’s left of it after the most recent round of destruction is different situation, shaped by long-term conflict and repeated destruction.
And the Gulf cities are wealthier and more globally connected, sure—but they’re still modern states dealing with their own security issues, politics, and regional pressure.
These aren’t different “levels of civilization.” They’re just modern states operating under very different conditions with real institutions, economies, and global ties. Some have formal militaries, others have organized armed forces operating within the state structure—but either way, they’re dealing with corruption, pressure, conflict, and ideology just like America.
The point isn’t that everything looks the same, it’s that none of this fits into some simple “modern vs not modern” box.
Corruption and conflict don’t turn modern states into tribes. They just make modern states weaker or stronger. The world isn’t moving up and down some evolutionary ladder—it’s just messy, uneven governance across the same modern system
Some modern states still operate with strong underlying tribal or clan-based social systems influencing politics and society, even while maintaining formal modern government structures.
What you see in less developed provinces isn’t a “final frontier”—it’s just uneven development in the same modern world. 
"A man walks down the street
It's a street in a strange world
Maybe it's the Third World
Maybe it's his first time around
He doesn't speak the language
He holds no currency
He is a foreign man
He is surrounded by the sound
The sound
Cattle in the marketplace
Scatterlings and orphanages
He looks around, around
He sees angels in the architecture
Spinning in infinity
He says Amen! and Hallelujah!"
It's a street in a strange world
Maybe it's the Third World
Maybe it's his first time around
He doesn't speak the language
He holds no currency
He is a foreign man
He is surrounded by the sound
The sound
Cattle in the marketplace
Scatterlings and orphanages
He looks around, around
He sees angels in the architecture
Spinning in infinity
He says Amen! and Hallelujah!"
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Soon our military will be integrating with the chosen ones, sharing training, weapons, tech and most likely people. What could go wrong, this announcement makes tons of sense now. Last week Big daddy T announced a 15 state antisemitism campaign. This story just keeps getting crazier every day.