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I bought a 16" Bear Creek side-charger with carbine gas system. I figured if it didn't shoot I would eventually rebarrel it. Turns out it shoots factory 150 fmj under an inch at 100. I'm still working on subsonic loads, but it doesn't have any trouble cycling them. I put an adjustable gas block on it to experiment with closing the gas off so that it wouldn't cycle, just to see how quiet it could be.