.308 reloading?

yeah..i was out @ sportsmans..thursday night..they had seven of those manual's..last night down to one..now there out !! it cost $27.50..ya might just have to order one.
 
well i talked to a friend that is going to help show me whats up with reloading, he talked me into trying the 155gr amax for the .308 and said all he uses is hornady and varget. so in a week or so i should have some bullets, powder and primers then im going to school!
 
Skinz: What everyone says above is true. However, Varget is not a good powder for a 40gn bullet in 223. I doubt there is even a listing. Varget rocks with the 60 gn bullets in 223 and the 110 gn bullets in 308. I use 26.4gn with 60 gn vmax in 223. I cannot remmember the 308 load. However, it either was a full dose of Varget or close to it using 110 gn vmax bullets. I used commercial cases and std winchester primers. OAL was usually set to the max that would still function in the magazines. However, your rifle is probably different than mine. You will need to check what OAL will work for your rifles. I don't know how to tell you how I accomplish this. It is too much to explain without pictures. It sounds like your on a fairly tight budget. If possible, find someone to help you out that has been doing this for a good long time. Time equates to both experience and tooling. It has taken me 30 years to accumulate the reloading equipment that I have. Also, Get a manual. I own five of the complete kind. Plus, I have several caliber specific, and several of the free manuals given out by the gun powder manufactures. You can usually get these at your local gun store.
Good Luck
 
i am actually thinking about going with the 55gr vmax in .223 instead of the 40.

i just cant afford to go buy 2 or 3 kinds of powder right off the bat. i am looking to get a start and if it doesnt work the best the first time,then i can try something new next time. thats really what it takes to find what works best, right?

to me nothing beats a nice sunny 65 degree afternoon laying in the yard plinking, that is until season opens next year!
 
Skinz: Just for S&Gs, I went to Hogdon's loading site, and I was wrong. They do list a 28gn varget load for the 40gn. The problem I have with it is that it would be very difficult to get 28gns of varget into a commercial 223 case. I use 26.4gns for the 60 gn vmax, and I have to pour the 26.4gns of varget into the case usint the funnel. I then tap the case and funnel litely on my reloading bench to pack the powder. The powder level is just about a 1/16 of an inch below the top of the case neck. Heck, I think you could simply use the case as a powder measure. Dip it in the powder, scrap of the top, gently tap the case to settle the powder and you would have about 27.5 gns of varget in a commercial case.
Good Luck and Have fun
 
Skinz: I had another reason to goto my reloading room tonight and again for S&gs, I put a funnel on top of a primed and freshly trimmed 223 R-P case and poured Varget into it. I tapped the case against the bench three times and pulled the funnel off. I then poured the powder on the scale with the powder slightly heaping on top of the case neck. I did this three times and got three measurements: 28.0gn, 28.1gn, and 28.2gns. Varget will work and is a fantastic powder for both calibers. You will just have to work a little harder with loading light 223 bullets. The 55gn will be easier but you still have an upper limit of 27.5 gns which is still a very compressed load. Make sure you use a good crimp to keep the bullets from walking out.
Have fun
 
If you're going to load for .223 and .308, get some Win 748 powder. I get good accuracy out of a 55 gr. in .223 and a 165 grain in .308 with it. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grinning-smiley-003.gif
 
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