.410 with 000 Buck for coyotes?

Rustydog

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Circumstance require that I use a small shotgun to kill some problem coyotes in So. Cal.

Question: Has anyone had experience using a .410 shotgun loaded with 000 Buck on very short range coyotes (30 yards or less)?

If you can answer this question, or have any load suggestions, I would appreciate a reply.

Thanks,


Rustydog (in Oregon)
 
Dang, you cant even use a 20ga ? Thats what I primarily use so I cant really answer anything Im sorry. But I would try to keep it within 20yds on a .410

Good luck out there and God Bless-
 
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Personally if I was forced to use a .410 I would shoot slugs and limit myself to 30-40 yards if you can shoot them accurately enough

Bryan
 
Accuracy would be the problem with a .410 slug; at least in my case.

The reason for a .410 is due to the fact that my brother only has a .410 and I can't bring a shotgun with me on this flight to So.Cal.

I will just have to get Mr Wiley "up close and personal"!

Rustydog
 
While I can't speak directly to the triple ought, I used 00 buck .410's when I was first starting out. All I had at the time was a 12ga and two .410's, spent most of my time carrying the .410 because I wasn't big enough to carry the 12ga very far. Then as I got bigger, occasionally I'd loan the 12ga to buddies and I'd use the .410... Spent 8-10yrs doing that off and on? I know I took dogs farther than 30yrds, but I'd be hard pressed to say any were at or beyond 50yrds. One of my favorite sets was a "dead pit" where we dump dead calves from one of our feed lots. It was a dry creek bed that occasionally would flood and carved out this 15ft deep, ~40yrd wide bend, I'd sit on one side, wait for the dogs to come into the dead cattle at night, then drop them. I honestly can't recall now what loads I had used, but I DO know that "cheap and available" were my highest priority at the time.

Your effective range is really a factor of your pattern, not really a power factor. The .410 runs about the same SPEED as the big boys, just has less shot. 5 pellets of 00 buck at 1200fps out of a .410 is a wicked machine (2 3/4" 12ga is only 8 pellets at about the same velocity, but almost twice the choke diameter), so if you get them where you need them, the dog is going down.

I know that's not much help, but I'd say if it patterns well, it'll be just as effective, energy wise, almost as far out as a 20 or 12ga. You DO need a more dense pattern, however, than the big boys, since you're looking at a few less pellets punching holes in your dogs.
 
yeah every 410 iv shot slugs out of have been pretty accurate as far as slug guns go. Iv noticed with shot gun slugs the smaller you go the more accurate it seems to be. Now if they made a .410 rifled with a sabot that would be sweet not really the most practical but would be sweet
 
.410 shotgun with rifled slugs vs a 50cal smoothbore musket with a round ball... Seems like a lot of soldiers did pretty well with the Brown Bess for a long time before we started quarterbacking the balls down range.
 
You can't make an accurate comparison of the .410 bore with a 12 gauge with large shot, the two just aren't fighting in the same weight class. However, if I were forced to use the little popgun this Federal Premium load of nine No. Four Buck pellets would most likely get the nod. Pattern the gun and at whatever range you begin to lose pellets from a 10" circle (or a paper plate whichever is handy) would dictate your maximum shooting distance. Here is the load...

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/440699/...llets-box-of-20
 
Leave early and drive down, it isn't that far. Then take anything you want. Unless it it past SF Kalliyfornya.
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600 miles for me is a Sunday drive
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Good luck Rusty.

If the FPS is the same as a 12 Bore then all you are lacking is the number of pellets.

That call you gave the wife has a good sound to it. Thanks.

That Magazine you gave me at the seminar does it always have that many adds in it?

DAB
 
Slugs would be a better option.
Check out the Brenneke Silver slugs.
I accuracy checked them at 50 yds and got 2.5" groups through a fixed full choke.
I suffered a torn rotator cuff and was thinking of going with a .410 this fall, but I've healed up some and I'm back on a 12 gauge....

I killed this one with a Winchester 1/4 oz slug @ 40yards running a few years back:


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