50 or 60 grain VMAX?

i shoot 40 grainers through my rem 700 because they group the best and they kill coyotes.

i shoot 50 grainers through my RRA 1-8 twist pred pursuit because they group the best in that gun and they kill coyotes

find the bullet that shoots the tightest group in your gun and go hunting ! 40 50 60 it dont matter they all kill just fine.
 
Originally Posted By: bkauzi shoot 40 grainers through my rem 700 because they group the best and they kill coyotes.

i shoot 50 grainers through my RRA 1-8 twist pred pursuit because they group the best in that gun and they kill coyotes

find the bullet that shoots the tightest group in your gun and go hunting ! 40 50 60 it dont matter they all kill just fine.

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Originally Posted By: IAyoteHNTROriginally Posted By: bkauzi shoot 40 grainers through my rem 700 because they group the best and they kill coyotes.

i shoot 50 grainers through my RRA 1-8 twist pred pursuit because they group the best in that gun and they kill coyotes

find the bullet that shoots the tightest group in your gun and go hunting ! 40 50 60 it dont matter they all kill just fine.

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Originally Posted By: HidalgoOriginally Posted By: IAyoteHNTROriginally Posted By: bkauzi shoot 40 grainers through my rem 700 because they group the best and they kill coyotes.

i shoot 50 grainers through my RRA 1-8 twist pred pursuit because they group the best in that gun and they kill coyotes

find the bullet that shoots the tightest group in your gun and go hunting ! 40 50 60 it dont matter they all kill just fine.

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never tried the 60's but IMO the vmax's don't kill just fine. push them fast out of a 22-250 and they surface splash, cut dogs in half, or leave massive exit holes. unless the hit is just right out of a 223 20" barrel they often require finishing shots. I think the btips are better because they have that heavy copper base
 
Originally Posted By: EasternNChunterMy thoughts are that either will do the job just fine but I am curious what you long time coyote hunters prefer. Speed or bigger bullet?
Your thinking is spot-on, EasternNChunter...either one with work--and I don't think the coyote will know the difference in bullet weight. While speed (downrange energy) is certainly important, I believe the most overlooked piece of the puzzle is accuracy. The shooter must determine what bullet (weight/speed/etc.) works best with their firearm of choice. Naysayers that claim the .223 V-Max is inferior and often requires follow-up shots should probably spend more time at the range and focus more on shot placement. I've used a .223 for most of my 40+ years of predator hunting, and I can count on one hand the number of times I've had to double-tap a coyote. And in every instance, it was because of my poor pill placement...usually landing too far back. For many years I used good old FMJ's and they worked just fine. Today, I shot the Hornady Varmint Superformance 53 gr. V-Max through my 16" RRA Predator Pursuit with unprecedented accuracy and results. And I have yet to have one that needed a second shot (knock on wood).
 
With "good" shot placment v max kill like lightning. Hit a shoulder blade or vertebrae and they can make big holes and splash. Iv shot 40gr v max and have had many DRT's. Shoot which ever shoots the best.
 
Just bought a Remington R-15 Carbine with a 1 in 9 twist. Going to try the 60 gr V-Max Black Hill remanufactured loads first. My thinking is with the shorter 18' inch barrel and reduced velocity, the 60 grainers will be less likely to splash, with the benefit of added knockdown. This all of course hinges on whether the load proves accurate in my rifle.
 
Not to hijack the thread but how does everyone like the blue box black hills 60 gr V-Max? I was thinking about buying some for my Ar I'm buying, but I've heard they may not be trimmed or be too long to feed properly.
 
I have been shooting the black hills blue box 60 grain in 2 ar rifles and never had a problem in 10 years with them. Eastern NC Hunter if you can shoot 60 grain bullets I would.They require a lot fewer follow up shots.
 
I actually bought several of the blue box Black Hills 60 grain VMAX bullets a couple weeks ago. They shoot lights out in my AR but everything I have ever shot through my Barnes Precision Machine 1-8 twist AR have shot one ragged hole groups.
 
Originally Posted By: EasternNChunterI actually bought several of the blue box Black Hills 60 grain VMAX bullets a couple weeks ago. They shoot lights out in my AR but everything I have ever shot through my Barnes Precision Machine 1-8 twist AR have shot one ragged hole groups.

Heavier the better, JMO.
50g V-Max shoot smallest groups from my AR, and I prefer the BT for reloading.
 
I've shot the 40 grain VMax in both the 223 and 22-250, and my 22-250 loves them. I load for and shot several 223's, both AR and bolt guns, and use VXax bullets in them. I use 50, 53, and 55 grain bullets in different rifles, but my most used bullet by far is the 50 grain VMax. It will flat kill a coyote, and I've had very few that weren't DRT, nor have I experienced much in the way of fur damage. Now, to be fair, I don't save fur on coyotes, so I could care less about that. However, I have used the 50 VMax on bobcats, and have seen no fur damage to speak of. I will also add that I have used the 32 grain VMax in the 204, with mixed results. At the higher velocities of this cartridge, I believe you get more splat and less penetration, if the bullet hits bone. At one time I gave up on the 204 because of repeated failures, but have since gone back to shooting it. I'm using both the 32 grain VMax and the 35 Bergers, but am not pushing them at max speeds, and so far the results have been very good.
 
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