5mm Remington magnum

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deltahunter

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A couple of weeks ago an older guy gave me a Remington 5mm Rimfire magnum. I've done the research and know that ammo is hard to find and is very expensive when you do find it. My question is do you think anyone will ever start producing ammo for this thing again? I'm not interested in the centerfire conversion. I had one box of ammo to play with and fell in love with the gun. Someone with some pull needs to convince Remington to produce ammo again. I love the core-lokt hollow point bullet in this caliber.
 
My guess which is strictly a guess would be that the .17 HMR has taken its niche in the market and its not coming back.
 
People have tried to talk some sense to Remington. Especialy after the sucess of the HMR the logical choice would be a .20 cal rimfire or 5mm. If you truely love your 5mm and you reload your in luck. Search the Schroeder cenversion for it. It involves a new bolt head and fireing pin. You can then get centerfire 5mm craig cases and reload them. You can also swap the bolt heads back in 5 minutes if you want to use the rimfire ammo.

You are not the only one out there who is hopeing someone big decides to chamber for it again. With modern rifles it would be very sucessful. The poor quality of the m591 and m592 is what killed the 5mm. Balisticly it is better round then the .22mag and HMR. The problem is the .22mag and HMR use the same case. The 5mm mag is slightly wider case. Modern rifles, bullets, and powder would make it a winner. Except no ammo manufacturer is going to pick it up unless a major rifle manufacturer does.

The popularity of the .204 ruger may help. would be a smart choice for ruger to chamber a .20cal rimfire but if they did it probably would be on the .22mag case not the 5mm rimfire case. Its a shame. its also a shame that big bussiness decisions are depriving us of a rimfire that will hit as hard as a .22 mag and still shoot as accurate and as far as a HMR.

My 2 cents
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http://www.chuckhawks.com/magnum_rimfire_comparison.htm

http://www.certech.net/5_intro.htm

http://members.aol.com/postmark92/5mm.htm
 
There's a company that makes a centerfire conversion and the cases for the Remington rifles chambered in the 5mm rimfire. If you do search on the net you'll find them. Cost is fairly high and I've always felt that it would be better to put the money toward something like one of the little CZ 527's in something like the 204 ruger just for the performance and accuracy difference.
 
remington can't produce the ammo, they sold the tooling, Old western scrounger was gonna produce it with the tooling purchased from rem if there was enough demand, don't guess there was.
RR
 
My five was one of the best guns I owned and a real favorite. Rabbits and gophers and fox it was so acurate and low noise and no recoil . Just the ammo got too high priced and then couldn't find it. Several of my friends had them . We all had ejection problems immedeately but sent them in and never missed one time after getting them back . I would buy the gun and ammo if they would bring it back. SM
 
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......I've always felt that it would be better to put the money toward something like one of the little CZ 527's in something like the 204 ruger just for the performance and accuracy difference.



I have one of the Schroeder conversions on a Model 591 rifle that is a tack driver for small game and short range varminting. It is extremely accurate.

I can easily pick off PD's at 150+ yards with this CF conversion rifle which is a blast to shoot. Reloading involves a new primer, ~ 5 grains of powder, and a 32 grain 20 caliber bullet.

Granted, initial costs of the conversion and dies were involved (about $175 dollars for the bolt head and dies at the time I bought mine), but the conversion has paid for itself many times over and is not that bad in terms of cost, especially if you are buying 17 HMR ammo at today's prices. 5MM CF brass will last forever.

And in terms of performance, its definitely not a 204 Ruger, a Tac 20, or any other larger CF varmint cartridges. But it will shoot with the 17 HMR and not give up one bit of performance.

JMO - from owning both a 5MM CF and a 17 HMR (which gets left at home most of the time) - BCB
 
Great little round. I've had mine since about 1971, and I have 199 rounds of ammo left.

As ridgerunner said, Old West Scrounger floated a trial ballon for a production run, but they (we?) never came through.

I would look at the Schroeder conversion if I used mine more often.
 
anyone needs ammo, I can buy a few boxes for 94 bucks per 50, wish I woulda bought those 100 boxes I was offered at 5 bucks per about 20 years ago.
RR
 
You know guys this is the "rimfire" they should bring back .I'm not one of these guys that thinks "old is better" ,but Remy was onto something with the 5MM .

My $2.00 worth .You know inflation , thinking costs more now .

Ramjet
 
I agree. I think the 5mm would be a hit. There is a wildlife refuge close to my house that is overrun with hogs. They will let you shoot the hogs during squirrell season, but you can only use a rimfire rifle. I've been shooting a 22mag, but the range is lacking. Thought about a 17hmr, but then energy is gone. The 5mm is a perfect match. Energy of the 22mag, but velocity closer to the 17.
 
I agree with BCB. I have the Craig conversion. The initial cost with the bolt conversion, dies, and other needed accessories was relatively high, but the cost of shooting the rifle is very low. Easy to reload, fun to shot, and accurate. Albeit, the triggers on the 591 and 592's are bad.
Jeff
 
Given the restrictions on lots of public hunting land, I bought a 22 mag. Wish I had a 5mm........ Should we petition Remington?
As you see from my avatar, I sometimes believe old is better, but only when it is supported!!!
 
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You know that's not a bad idea .I will call them and see what would constitute a minimum order to get a production run . Their plant in Arkansas is not too far and we do some business with them . This is likely to be several million pieces but I am sure there are a number 5mm guns not being used out there . Give me a couple of weeks and I'll see what I can find out .I will call the Old Western Scr. as well .
 
I contacted the " The Old Western Scr" and they told me just tooling was approximatly $400,000 . This is no brass ,bullets ,powder, and load development . I will update as I talk to other potiential suppliers . They also said they had not seen any old ammo in a long long time .
So don't waist what you got !

Ramjet
 
Not to change the subject, but, I bought a .17Mach2. I also bought 4000 rounds of ammo anticipating it would go the way of the 5mm Rem.
Hindsight is always 20/20.
Jeff
 
Bad news guys I was looking around and found a note on an old post which said there were only 28000 5mm guns built by Remington .This probably means there is not enough users out there to justify a production run of ammo. I will try to verify these numbers .

Ramjet
 
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Bad news guys I was looking around and found a note on an old post which said there were only 28000 5mm guns built by Remington .This probably means there is not enough users out there to justify a production run of ammo. I will try to verify these numbers .

Ramjet



Several thousand Contender barrels were made too. They just arnt gonna do it. Its not worth it to them. Remington does'nt even own the equipment anymore. Whats that tell ya.
 
Brokenaero I'm gonna give it a try any way but you are probably right .The funny thing is I don't even have a 5mm but I would if they brought it back .
 


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