Dultimatpredator
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I'm just wondering if I can can expect better than .5" groups after Acraglassing my action?
I have bedded many rifles on and off over the last 18 years with spectacular results tightening up my accuracy... But the best I've ever got out of all the ones I've bedded have been half inch groups. I bought hs prescion stocks for two of the rifles and both .5" groups with the same loads shrunk to cloverleaves at 100 yards.
The last rifle I bedded was a Ruger 77/44 tuperware stock. I only shoot cast bullets I make through it and the best group before bedding was 2" at a hundred yards. The groups ranged from 2" to 4.4". After bedding and some other tweeking I have a load that shoots .6" and another at .8" with about 8 other plus loads that shoot 1.24"-1.449"...the same loads that were 2plus inches to 4.4".
I glassed a savage 220, tuperware stock 20 guage slugger that was shooting 2.5/2.75" groups at 100 yards. I best group after bedding made one big hole that was around .7" and the other 5 loads I tested shrank to 1.25"-1.75". Both this gun and the 77/44 I didn't use very much glass. I didn't put in a lot just enough to hold the tang in place and a dab on on the rear of the action. The jobs didnt look the greatest but tightened the groups.
I glassed a Remington 600. I did the whole action oozing up and over the stock. The first and only load I tested was some loaded 90 gr NBT reloaded ammo that cloverleaves in my VLS. It shot a .5" group. In all fairness I never tested any other loads out if this rifle.
I also glass bedded my 243 VLS. The best I could get out of it was .5" groups after dozens apon dozens of loads. I put a hs stock on it and the same loads cloverleaf. I have several hs stocked 700 that will cloverleaf that I never skim bedded just screwed them in place with no torque settings.
I also glassed the complete actions of a 1903 in a Boyd's stock and a enfield in a custom wood stock. Both with timney triggers. Once again the best groups were half inch no better.
All the barrels of course free floated and triggers 1 1/4 to 2 lbs max.
It seems like whether I bed the whole action or if I just put enough in to hold the actions in place I can get my glassed rifles to shoot sub MOA but never under .5" groups. The only way I can squeak out a nice little one hole consistent triangle groups is to bolt them into a full length bedded stock.
Any suggestions on how to achieve tighter groups with glad bedding or is this as good as it gets with glass only? I don't want to pillar bed just because I don't have the proper tools and don't want to wreck my stock.
Would pillar bedding along with glassing tighten my groups or stay about the same? I would assume a good glass job is going to hold it in place just as good as pillars would?
I have bedded many rifles on and off over the last 18 years with spectacular results tightening up my accuracy... But the best I've ever got out of all the ones I've bedded have been half inch groups. I bought hs prescion stocks for two of the rifles and both .5" groups with the same loads shrunk to cloverleaves at 100 yards.
The last rifle I bedded was a Ruger 77/44 tuperware stock. I only shoot cast bullets I make through it and the best group before bedding was 2" at a hundred yards. The groups ranged from 2" to 4.4". After bedding and some other tweeking I have a load that shoots .6" and another at .8" with about 8 other plus loads that shoot 1.24"-1.449"...the same loads that were 2plus inches to 4.4".
I glassed a savage 220, tuperware stock 20 guage slugger that was shooting 2.5/2.75" groups at 100 yards. I best group after bedding made one big hole that was around .7" and the other 5 loads I tested shrank to 1.25"-1.75". Both this gun and the 77/44 I didn't use very much glass. I didn't put in a lot just enough to hold the tang in place and a dab on on the rear of the action. The jobs didnt look the greatest but tightened the groups.
I glassed a Remington 600. I did the whole action oozing up and over the stock. The first and only load I tested was some loaded 90 gr NBT reloaded ammo that cloverleaves in my VLS. It shot a .5" group. In all fairness I never tested any other loads out if this rifle.
I also glass bedded my 243 VLS. The best I could get out of it was .5" groups after dozens apon dozens of loads. I put a hs stock on it and the same loads cloverleaf. I have several hs stocked 700 that will cloverleaf that I never skim bedded just screwed them in place with no torque settings.
I also glassed the complete actions of a 1903 in a Boyd's stock and a enfield in a custom wood stock. Both with timney triggers. Once again the best groups were half inch no better.
All the barrels of course free floated and triggers 1 1/4 to 2 lbs max.
It seems like whether I bed the whole action or if I just put enough in to hold the actions in place I can get my glassed rifles to shoot sub MOA but never under .5" groups. The only way I can squeak out a nice little one hole consistent triangle groups is to bolt them into a full length bedded stock.
Any suggestions on how to achieve tighter groups with glad bedding or is this as good as it gets with glass only? I don't want to pillar bed just because I don't have the proper tools and don't want to wreck my stock.
Would pillar bedding along with glassing tighten my groups or stay about the same? I would assume a good glass job is going to hold it in place just as good as pillars would?
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