Advise on starting a stand with a hand call first.

vicfox

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I have traditionally been a hand caller but purchased a Foxpro late last year. I have had occasions when I have started stands off with a hand call trying to cover as much area as possible on a windy day. I only use distress sounds that might figure in you answer.

Is there any of you start off with a hand call or are you exclusivly using a ecaller.
Is there any advise you could suggest for or against.

I am not using the hand call to introduce another sound but only to increase the initial volume.

Advise sort.
 
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vicfox,

I have just the article for you. There is a local caller here in Arizona named Mike Burris that uses a Foxpro e-caller and hand calls at the same time.

Here is the blog article: Burris' Hand Call & E Call Bobcat

In exchaging emails with him, I have learned that he's not using the hand call first to get out the big volume, rather he's using his open reed call in conjunction with his Foxpro to give his stand greater sound variety.

From talking to Mike it certainly works for him - you'll note in the article that he and his brother Ned called in 6 coyotes and 2 bobcats that day.

Good calling to you,

Mark Healy
 
A friend of mine and I had discussed which could be heard the farthest, a mouth blown call or electronic call. The other day we decided to test some different calls just to see. We were in touch by cell phone while we were doing this. He was about a half mile from me. I started out by blowing a couple different closed reed distress calls. These were both jackrabbit reed calls. He couldn't hear either one of those calls. Next I tried an open reed distress call. He could hear it. Next I did some coyote howls on 2 different open reed calls and he could hear them but they were not as loud as we had expected they would be at that distance.

Next, using a Foxpro Spitfire electronic call I played a Jackrabbit distress. The Spitfire only has 5 different volume settings. Volume setting 4 doesn't seem overly loud but he could hear it better than the open reed distress call. When I increased the volume to level 5, he could even hear it while talking to me on the phone.

When I played the coyote vocals on the Foxpro they were much louder than coyote howls from the open reed howlers.

The thing with an electronic call is that with the horn speaker, they are very directional. If you set out an electronic caller, turn it on and go out about 200 yards and walk a circle around it you will find that when you are in front of the speaker you can hear it very well but when you are on he back side of the speaker you can barely hear it, if at all.

I use both electronic and mouth blown calls but I mainly use the electronic in open country where I am confident in which direction the coyotes are from me so I can direct the sound towards them.

One thing that works well especially if you are using a decoy is to put the electronic call next to the decoy and turn the volume down low and just let it play while you call with your mouth calls. Once you spot the coyote or fox just stop with your mouth calls and let the electronic call and decoy bring them on in.

 
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Thanks for the advise.
I have been placing the call with my decoy and that works a treat.
I mucked up a stand last week and had a fox come straight
in to me rather than the decoy because I started off with the hand call, so the lesson was learned that you should start with the ecaller first incase something is real close. I needed the attention on the decoy as I was trying to get my daughter her first fox with the rifle and she wasn't set well to move the bipod to her advantage without being detected. WE FAILED AT THAT ATTEMPT.
 
Sounds like a guy should pack along a mouth call in case the Electronic call takes a dump.

But then I never bring my team and wagon along to back up my truck.
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Just foolin around Casey.
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