Angry Homosexuals Threaten Christians with Violence!

FYI

This same Prop failed in two other states besides Kalifornia.

And for the record Kaliforina has voted NO to gay (I won't use the M word) EVERY TIME!

This state still sucks but we said Yes on 8 !!!!!
 
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FYI

This same Prop failed in two other states besides Kalifornia.

And for the record Kaliforina has voted NO to gay (I won't use the M word) EVERY TIME!

This state still sucks but we said Yes on 8 !!!!!



Yeah, AZ and FL both defined marriage in their state constitutions as a union between one man and one woman. Additionally, AR passed a measure preventing homos from adopting kids. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grinning-smiley-003.gif
 
I must have missed it in the story. Just exactly how are the Mormons responsible for the end of gay marriage? Why that church and not all of the others? Just seems like a wierd group to single out.

Nate
 
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I must have missed it in the story. Just exactly how are the Mormons responsible for the end of gay marriage? Why that church and not all of the others? Just seems like a wierd group to single out.

Nate



Nate,

I think the homosexual cowards are picking on the smallest target that they feel other faiths won’t defend.

The LDS Church did not contribute a single dollar to the Yes on 8 campaign because it would violate it’s standings with the IRS for making political contributions.

However the LDS leadership did mobilize the faithful to donate, work phone banks, and go door to door spreading the Yes on 8 word. As did other faiths.

Mormon’s all across the country raised close to 20 million.

I believe the Catholic’s raised 30-40 million with other faiths and individuals making up the rest for a total of 70 million.

My guess is they feel others won’t defend the Mormon’s but I will and do.

God bless everyone regardless of faith who helped Yes on 8, we needed you all!

Steve
 
Arnold the RINO now shows his true colors...note how liberal reported describes his latest pro-homo position as "evolved." No bias there, though.

Personally, I remain happily devolved...

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http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-protest10-2008nov10,0,4939340.story

From the Los Angeles Times
Schwarzenegger tells backers of gay marriage: Don't give up
The governor expresses hope that Proposition 8 would be overturned as protesters continued to march outside churches across California.


By Michael Rothfeld and Tony Barboza

November 10, 2008

Reporting from Sacramento and Lake Forest — Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger on Sunday expressed hope that the California Supreme Court would overturn Proposition 8, the ballot initiative that outlawed same-sex marriage. He also predicted that the 18,000 gay and lesbian couples who have already wed would not see their marriages nullified by the initiative.

"It's unfortunate, obviously, but it's not the end," Schwarzenegger said in an interview Sunday on CNN. "I think that we will again maybe undo that, if the court is willing to do that, and then move forward from there and again lead in that area."

With his favorable comments toward gay marriage, the governor's thinking appears to have evolved on the issue.

In past statements, he has said he believes that marriage should be between a man and a woman and has rejected legislation authorizing same-sex marriage. Yet he has also said he would not care if same-sex marriage were legal, saying he believed that such an important societal issue should be determined by the voters or the courts.

Schwarzenegger publicly opposed Proposition 8, which amends the state Constitution to declare that "only marriage between a man and a woman is valid or recognized in California."

On Sunday, he urged backers of gay marriage to follow the lesson he learned as a bodybuilder trying to lift weights that were too heavy for him at first. "I learned that you should never ever give up. . . . They should never give up. They should be on it and on it until they get it done."

The governor's position on the fate of the existing same-sex marriages aligns him with California Atty. Gen. Jerry Brown, who has said he believes that the state Supreme Court will uphold the existing marriages as valid.

The 14-word constitutional amendment does not state explicitly that it would nullify same-sex marriages performed before the Nov. 4 election, although proponents say it will. Legal experts differ on this point.

Schwarzenegger's comments came as protesters took to the streets for a fifth day in a row, sometimes marching to Catholic and Mormon churches that supported passage of the ballot measure.

Hundreds of Proposition 8 protesters in Orange County gathered down the hill from Saddleback Church in Lake Forest as several thousand congregants attended services inside the sprawling religious campus.

Martijn Hostetler, 30, of West Hollywood held a sign that read "Purpose Driven Hate," a dig at the church's celebrity Pastor Rick Warren, author of the bestseller "The Purpose-Driven Life,"who backed the ballot measure. "I don't think Jesus would approve of a gay-marriage ban," he said. "I don't think God discriminates."

While demonstrators received supportive honks from motorists, many members of the mega-church said they had little sympathy for the protesters because the matter had already been settled by voters.

"We're a democracy and our strength is that the majority wins the vote," said John Kirkpatrick, a church member.

Sherrie Derriko, a longtime Saddleback Church member and hair salon owner from Mission Viejo, said she was bothered that protesters had targeted houses of worship. As she drove by, she rolled down her window to offer some advice.

"Read the Bible. God made man and woman, and that's what a marriage is," she called from inside her SUV.

Derriko recounted the incident after attending services. "When we saw them out there, we thought, 'Why are they not over this? Do they think they're going to change anything, or are they just stirring up trouble at our church?' "

But for Sally "Sal" Landers, 52, a Saddleback Church member from Lake Forest, her participation in the protest was a deeply personal matter. Landers and her female partner of three years plan to marry and adopt children. When she received an e-mail from Warren urging a "yes" vote on Proposition 8, she said, "I felt like I was kicked in the stomach by someone who loves unconditionally."

So on Sunday, Landers joined the protesters outside the church rather than the parishioners inside. "We really love him and respect his opinion," Landers said of Warren. "I need some reassurance that I'm welcome here as a gay American citizen."

Other protests were staged outside Mormon temples or churches in Oakland, Yucca Valley and other cities.

In downtown Los Angeles, 150 protesters congregated in front of the Cathedral of Our Lady of the Angels, chanting, among other things, "What would Jesus say?" The crowd was joined later in the day by protesters who marched from Lincoln Park on the city's Eastside.

Some churches, to be sure, assailed Proposition 8 as discriminatory.

"We will continue to bless same-sex unions here until we can legally celebrate same-sex unions again," the Rev. Ed Bacon told 1,000 congregants during Sunday services at All Saints Episcopal Church in Pasadena, which has blessed same-sex unions for 16 years.

After the service, Bacon and other clergy members held a news conference on the church steps. They were surrounded by gay and lesbian couples, some standing with young children.

"I know these couples. I know their relationships," Bacon said, addressing a phalanx of television cameras. "They should be celebrated, rather than disparaged. . . . In the eyes of God, these people are married."

Rothfeld and Barboza are Times staff writers.
 
'Martijn Hostetler, 30, of West Hollywood held a sign that read "Purpose Driven Hate," a dig at the church's celebrity Pastor Rick Warren, author of the bestseller "The Purpose-Driven Life,"who backed the ballot measure. "I don't think Jesus would approve of a gay-marriage ban," he said. "I don't think God discriminates."'

Nothing quite like Atheists who arrogantly think they speak for Jesus or know better the intentions of the Lord than He has placed into the Scriptures, lol!

When you ask someone like this to actually defend their position with evidence they generally cannot. Here's my evidence that her statement is 180 degrees off:

Leviticus 20:13:
"If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads." (NIV)


Hardly an endorsement of 'gay marriage,' eh? I'd say that "...are to be put to death" speaks volumes on the Lord's view of sex perverts.

I am not so arrogant as to try to speak for Jesus, and there are many here more knowledgeable on the Holy Bible, but I think it is likely that He would advise people like this homo to move on with their lives and STOP SINNING, ie quit engaging in sodomy.
 
Why on earth is anyone putting up with this crap?

When we go out to protest after Obama bans our guns do you actually think the authorities will just stand and watch as they are here with the homos or will they send in riot troops?

Palm Springs Rally Turns Violent

Updated: Nov 8, 2008 02:08 AM EST
By Kimberly Cheng
KPSP Local 2 News

A gay rights rally at the Palm Springs City Hall turned violent Friday night when a woman showed up carrying a styrofoam cross. A scuffle took place and an angry crowd even turned on our KPSP Local 2 crew.

"They began grabbing me. It was like a dog pack," Phyllis Burgess, a Prop 8 supporter, said.

All caught on tape, the video shows one protester grabbing the styrofoam cross from Burgess' hands. Another protesters is shown stomping on it. Burgess says she was struck on the head and spit on.

"The crowd was very angry that someone was here that they felt didn't belong here," Burgess said. "But I've lived in this city for 30 years."

"I don't want to keep it peaceful anymore," one protester yelled. "We should fight! We should fight!" he shouted.

During a live interview with KPSP Local 2, protesters encircled Burgess. Yelling expletives and hateful slurs, the crowd turned their anger on our news crew. Many were angry that the woman was given a chance to express her opinions.

Out of hundreds at the rally, only dozens were a part of the chaos. "The majority of the crowd didn't (get involved)," said Stan Janas, a gay rights supporter. "We stayed with our own agenda."

A few tried to calm down the crowd. Peter East, a gay rights supporter, described the incident as hate. "(It was a) complete misunderstanding of what this is all about," East said.

"I'm glad I did what I did," Burgess said. "Both sides need to be represented."

Burgess was not hurt. Police took an incident report. No arrests were made.
 
They should allow homosexuals to get married... why not? Just make the marriage license for same sex marriage cost $100,000... it's the Obama way of getting rid of something while you don't really get rid of it. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
 
Tuesday, November 11, 2008

California's revolt against sodomy
Exclusive: Les Kinsolving looks at Golden State's rejection of same-sex marriage


By Les Kinsolving

On Election Day at 11 a.m., the Catholic League for Religious and Civil Rights issued the following statement from its national headquarters in New York City:

Running on TV stations today throughout California is an incendiary ad produced by a pro-gay marriage group, Courage Campaign Issues Committee; it depicts Mormons as intolerant crazies.
Two young men, who identify themselves as being from the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, knock on the door of two lesbian women announcing that "We are here to take away your rights." They walk into their house and literally take the "wedding rings" off their fingers, and then proceed to ransack their house looking for their "marriage license." When they find it, they rip it up in front of them. They walk out saying, "That was too easy. What should we ban next?"

Catholic League president, attorney Bill Donohue responded as follows:

"Radical homosexuals have a long history of anti-religious bigotry, so it is not surprising that with a pro-marriage initiative on the ballet in California (Proposition 8 would secure marriage as a right between a man and a woman only), they would resort to gutter tactics. This group is not some fringe operation – it works closely with George Soros' MoveOn.org, another organization that has not shied away from bashing people of faith.

"The Catholic League is proud to stand with the California Catholic Conference in condemning this bigotry. Bishop Stephen Blaire, the president of the Catholic group, is right to express his dismay at any media outlet that would air such intolerance. It does not matter that the persons of faith who are demonized in the TV ad are Mormons, not Catholics: What matters is that men and women of any faith who are pro-marriage – and who resist attempts to subvert it by relativizing it – be treated with respect."

With 99 percent of precincts reporting, California voters backed Proposition 8 by 5,376,424 to 4,870,010 votes, or 52 percent to 48 percent. Proposition 8 amends the state constitution to specify that only marriages between one man and one woman would be recognized as valid in California – overturning a May 2008 state Supreme Court ruling that legalized same-sex marriage.

This expressed will of the majority of the people of California was denounced by the Episcopal bishop of Los Angeles, the Rt. Reverend J. Jon Bruno, who issued a statement calling upon Californians "to make an honest and dedicated effort to learn more about the lives and experiences of lesbian and gay humanity whose constitutional rights are unfairly targeted by this measure. Look carefully at scriptural interpretations, and remember that the Bible was once used to justify slavery, among other forms of oppression."

This astounding and racist attempt to compare opposition to sodomy with support of slavery may very well serve to increase the more than 1 million Episcopalians who, since the 1960s, have walked out of that denomination.

There is also the fact that, as headlined in the Washington Post: MOST OF CALIFORNIA'S BLACK VOTERS BACKED GAY MARRIAGE BAN.

Bishop Bruno, together with his fellow California Episcopal prelates in San Diego, San Francisco, Sacramento and San Jose, have therefore, in supporting same-sex marriage, offended seven out of 10 of California's blacks – who voted yes on Proposition 8.

And while parts of the Bible justify slavery – the movement to abolish slavery was led by deeply devoted Christians, such as British Member of Parliament William Wilberforce and the Rev. David Livingstone.

With no mention of this, Bishop Bruno charged Californians who voted opposition to marital status for sodomists with "religious oppression" through what he termed "a lamentable expression of fear-based discrimination that attempts to deny the constitutional rights of some Californians on the basis of sexual orientation."

That incredible expression of tolerance for alternative sexual orientation begs the question as to how these California Episcopal bishops can so support tolerance for (unspecified and thus all) sexual orientations. Sexual orientation includes polygamy, polyandry, bestiality (with beasts who are freely consenting), sado-masochism and is the goal of NAMBLA, the North American Man/Boy Love Association.

Citing President-elect Barack Obama's election night speech to the nation, Bishop Bruno called upon Californians to support gay marriage and "summon a new spirit of patriotism."

But as the New York Times reported Nov. 6, "Obama opposes same-sex marriage."

The Times also reported:

Opponents of same-sex marriage won by ever bigger margins in Arizona and Florida. Just two years ago, Arizona rejected a similar ban.
The across-the-board sweep coupled with passage of a measure in Arkansas intended to bar gay men and lesbians from adopting children, was a stunning victory for religious conservatives.

The Rev. Joel Hunter, an evangelical pastor in Florida, said many religious conservatives felt more urgency about stopping same-sex marriage than about abortion, another hotly contested issue long locked in a stalemate.

"There is enough of the population that is alarmed at the general breakdown of the family, that has been so inundated with images of homosexual relationships in all of the media," said Mr. Hunter, who gave the benediction at the Democratic National Convention this year, yet supported the same-sex marriage ban in his state. "It's almost like it's obligatory these days to have a homosexual couple in every TV show or every movie."

Proposition 8's passage left only Massachusetts and Connecticut as states where same-sex marriages are legal, though both Rhode Island and New York will continue to recognize such ceremonies performed elsewhere. Civil unions or domestic partnerships, which carry many of the same rights as marriage, are allowed in a handful of states. More than 40 states now have constitutional bans or laws against same-sex marriages.

"This city is no longer marrying people" of the same sex, Gavin Newsom, the mayor of San Francisco, announced at a grim news conference at City Hall, where hundreds of same-sex couples had rushed to marry in the days and hours up to Tuesday's vote.

The status of those marriages, among 17,000 same-sex unions performed in the state, was left in doubt by the vote. The state's attorney general, Jerry Brown, reiterated Wednesday that he believed that those marriages would remain valid, but legal skirmishes were expected.

The cities of Los Angeles and San Francisco, and Santa Clara County, as well as several civil rights and gay rights groups, said on Wednesday that they would sue to block the ban.

In East Los Angeles, the Washington Post reported:

Pablo Correa said his mind was made up by a TV spot in which a young girl comes home from school and tells her mother she learned how a prince could marry a prince.
"Before, I didn't know about Proposition 8. When I saw the commercial, it opened my mind," said Correa, 42, standing in his beauty supply story in Boyle Heights, in heavily Latino East Los Angeles.

"I don't discriminate against people," he said, with a wave at the rows of lipstick and makeup. "I have a lot of customers who are homosexuals, transsexuals and bisexuals. I'm not against these people."

He added: "But I'm a traditionalist. I come from a traditional family. People can do whatever they want in their own life, but I have to protect my family."
 
THIS IS UNREAL!!! LOOK AT THESE FAGS PHYSICALLY ATTACKING THIS 80 Y-O WOMAN AND GLEEFULLY DESTROYING HER CROSS!!! WHY ARE THE POLICE ALLOWING THESE HOMOS TO BREAK THE LAW IN SEVERAL STATES???!!!



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Tuesday, November 11, 2008

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Watch church lady meet same-sex 'marriage' protesters
Cross-carrying senior, reporter face screams, threats.

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A pro-'gay'-marriage protester in Palm Springs

An angry mob of homosexual activists in Southern California attacked an elderly bespectacled woman carrying a cross then shouted her down during a live TV interview as she tried to explain to a reporter her defense of the state's new marriage amendment.

"WE SHOULD FIGHT! WE SHOULD FIGHT!" screams one protester as the woman, identified as Phyllis Burgess, stands calmly with a reporter waiting to be interviewed.

In the live interview by KPSP-TV in Palm Springs, another protester yells, "GET OUT OF HERE," and the reporter tells her anchor team back at the station, "As you can see we are being attacked."

The confrontation developed when homosexual activists gathered at the Palm Springs City Hall for a protest following voters' approve by a margin of nearly 53 percent to 47 percent a state constitutional amendment that recognizes only a marriage between a man and a woman. The amendment specified that it is effective immediately. Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, however, is encouraging an effort led by the ACLU to overturn the measure in court.

Prior to the aborted interview, KPSP captured footage of Burgess carrying a cross to portray her objection to homosexual marriage on biblical grounds.

Burgess barely had arrived when the cross was knocked from her hand then stomped on the ground.

About 10 minutes later, the on-scene reporter, Kimberly Cheng, tried repeatedly to complete her interview.

"She just wants to express her viewpoint, sir," she tells a protester who was waving his arms in her face.

The video later was posted on the San Francisco State University College Republicans' website.

Ryan Sorba, chairman of the college group, said the video "is astounding and chilling and speaks for itself."

"The end of this video illustrates the fate of religious freedom and marriage should pro-sodomy activists ultimately legalize so-called same-sex marriage by way of activist California courts," he wrote.

That's where the anchor concludes the report with: "There's a lot of anger and a lot of hate, quite honestly, on both sides."

On the Republicans' comment page, there was outrage.

"There is simply no explanation for this kind of intolerance. For a group of people who claim to be fighting to expand their rights, they sure are willing to strip conservatives of theirs."


"Yeah, the 80 year old woman was full of HATE. you could tell."


"The anchor said there was a lot of anger and hate on both sides – there was no anger and hate portrayed by the little old lady holding the cross. She reminds me of Ghandi. The anger and hate was all one sided. To defile a crucifix like that is a very grave evil indeed."


"Man, this is unbelievable. I have never seen so much intolerance and hate in my life. Who is being silenced now. The news anchor obviously was not paying attention to what was going on, if he had the nerve to say there was hatred from both sides. ... From what I saw, she was saying she loved the people, was praying, and had her belongings ripped from her and trampled on."
Another forum contributor, however, asserted, "That lady had it comin.'"
 


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