Anti Reflection Devices - great upgrade for your predator rifle

rizzo

rizzo

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I've seen the KillFlash devices on Aimpoints, and I recall seeing some Anti Reflective Devices (ARDs) on military scopes, but until I saw an ARD on the new Nikon Predator scope, I guess I never thought about putting one on my own setup. Well now I have, and let me tell you - it's great! No more worrying about shine from the sun on the lens while on stand - here in Arizona that's a constant concern, as the cover you find doesn't always hide you from the sun. The ARD also blocks incoming sun so that you get don't get glared out while drawing down on an animal. It does take away a little of the light gathering ability of the scope, but not so much that it bothers me, and it's inexpensive as well. $20 for the ARD from SWFA and $8 for the Butler Creek flip-cap, which I got from Wal-Mart and then cut the cap off.

Check out their product list ARDs and SunGuards - they have some made for specific scope models, otherwise they slip into a scope cover, and are sized based on that cover. I'm anxious to hunt with it for awhile so that I can post an accurate field report on it, but I took it out shooting today and so far, so good.

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I put one of those on my Monarch. It's a bit of a trade-off, you lose some clarity but there's no glare. Look towards the sun with it and you can see a "honeycomb" pattern. That's going to bother some people, but it kills the glare and the loss of clarity isn't noticible for short-range predator-style shooting.
Mine's mounted under a flip-up scope cover, so I can take it off in about 10 seconds if it's not required.
I didn't even cut the cap off of mine, I just pushed the pin and took the cap/spring off, then rotated the tabs toward the barrel so they were out of the way. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused1.gif
All in all, I'm happy with how it works, unless you're looking right into the sun. It's noticible then.
 
why not ARD flip-ups (downs) for prescription spectacles and sunglasses?......we're constantly scan'n for incoming while our scopes just sit there....greater chance of a reflection off our eyewear than a single scope lens.....and how many of us wear those wrap-a-round oakley-type UFO bug-eyed sunglasses in those trendy shiny colors?....just a thought.....
 
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The sunglasses ARD idea is cool, but I don't wear sunglasses when I hunt. I've always felt that it distorts my vision.

And taking the cap off is easy - there's a pin and a spring that holds the cap on - pull out the pin, take off the spring, then turn the cover so that the "nubs" are out of the way. Just like Evil said - it's fairly easy. I just cut my nubs off because I never saw myself using the cap at all.
 
Thanks for the post ... I really liked that feature on the new Nikon Coyote scope, but was upset that they didnt make it in a 50 mm. I like the larger objective scopes and the Nikon 3 X 9 X 50mm I have on my AR-15 is really ideal for our hunting conditions waaaaaay down here in the south:) Thanks to your research I ordered the appropriate anti-reflective device and butler creek flip up cover today. The guys on these forums have really geometrically improved my tactics, and equipment and saved me probably years of learning curve. I really do appreciate you guys.

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Well, Rizzo got back here before I did, and what he's telling you is accurate. You just need one of the 1/4" thick ARDs (#1-#6) and the correct Butler Creek Blizzard flip-up cover. Look at the magnified view here:

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That pin pushes out and you have everything you need, since the ARD is trapped between the objective and the main scope cover ring.

You can cut the ears off if you want to, I just turned them down out of the way.
Or you can leave it on there, it will still work.
 
Thanks for the great writeup, guys! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grinning-smiley-003.gif

I'll be saving this thread for future use.
 
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Why not use a sunshade?


I believe with a sunshade the scope lens will still reflect light if the sun is within your field of view in the scope.

Then there are the added size and weight factors...
 
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Why not use a sunshade?



That's another option. The 1/4" ARD is supposedly as effective as a 7" sunshade. It would be worth trying them side-by-side to see which is better.
 
I wouldn't want to look thru a scope if the sun was in the feild of view. I believe that would hurt the eye.
Sportingly
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Does not look like it will work. Not much info and the pictures do not show threads on both sides. The Alumina cover I have screws into the objective. Would be nice to "screw" the ARD on the objective, then "screw" the Alumina cover to the ARD. Guess that would be called stacking the two. Will call Leupold.

Thanks for the link!
 
Hey Chapped Lips - you'll never guess what I found while hunting this weekend! I am walking to a stand when I look on the ground and lo and behold - some ARDs for sunglasses! I have never seen these things before in my life, but less than a week after you ask about them, I find a set in the woods. Weird.

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As far as the sunshade idea, Evil's right - they're supposed to work better than a sunshade without the added weight and size. Might be cheaper, too, depending on the scope.

At any rate, I went calling the morning of the Fourth, and killed two coyotes with my rifle and the ARD - pics of the dead dogs will be up shortly in the "Predator Hunting" forum. Here's my AAR of the ARD - it does diminish light gathering ability. How much depends on where you're at. Sitting in darker shade you can notice the difference dramatically; lighter areas, not so much. However, I did not have a hard time at all finding both coyotes in the scope and putting them both down.
 
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I am walking to a stand when I look on the ground and lo and behold - some ARDs for sunglasses!



Those don't happen to have a name on them anywhere, do they? I wear glasses and those would be mighty handy at certain times.
 


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