any 9mm hunters out there?

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crowpopper

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well reason i ask is i just picked up a full size ruger SR9 i am gettin 3 in gps at 30 yds just picked up several diff brands and weights to try tomorrow. If i can get under 5 in at 50 i think it will be a good sidearm for yotes, easier than carrying a shotty in the woods and a rifle most my shots are under 40 anyways. But if u have a 9 whats ur fav load, bullets, weights anything? I may grab dies for it and reload some hunting loads if i find a factory load thats good, ill try hand loads can only get better right? What about cast bullets in a semi will they work? I have acess to a wide variety of cast slugs too if they would be ok in an automatic pistol
 
A 9mm will work out to 50yds if you do your part. For practice i would use 115gr, i use hornady 147gr xtp's with 4.1grs of tight group for carry.

The pentration with them is supprising and they will do the job. At 50yds a 4 or 5" barrel would be best. blue
 
thanks i have a 4.5" bbl on this gun
i was shooting today with 124 JHP +P loads and i was getting groups of 12" and less
i need more practice for sure but under 35 im good to go
i have until october to practice and i just picked up dies today so im gonna start loading up and shooting it alot
 
thats odd even small game? Is a 22 rimfire legal? Is it legal in pistol form? Strange laws. At over 450 FPE theres plenty of snot for a yote or fox and fun on rabbits too
 

No, but the Glock 20(10mm Auto) goes hunting with me. I have
a 6" extended barrel, 180 gr. XTP loads doing between 1300
and 1400 fps, and can hold about an 8" group off a rest at
50 yards. It is my large predator defense pistol for hunting
and woods walking. We have wolves and when my Chessie is
with me they may try do defend their territory by attacking
her. Then I will defend my territory.
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I haven't had a chance to test the pistol out for coyote
hunting, but I am sure it will do just fine.

As for deer hunting, I have a Savage Striker(bolt action
pistol with a 14" barrel), in 308 Win. It launches Barnes
130 gr. TSX bullets at 2800 fps(measured), so there are
no concerns of lethality for anything from black bear on
down.

I don't think I would carry a 9mm in the woods, unless that
is all I owned, for a hand gun. But as a close quarters
coyote pistol, it would do just fine.

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our biggest predator is black bears there not around in the winter when im yote hunting so the 9mm is fine for yote ,fox, bobcat
most of the timber i hunt i am limited to 40 yards anyways and under 40 im pretty consistant on pop cans
i need to work on my 50 yard groups yet but i have some dies now and going to order up some reloading stuff i should beable to load so hot loads in the 500 FPE range
which is plenty for yotes
i have noticed this gun like the +p ammo better anyways
 
I've whacked quite a few jack rabbits with a G26 and a Browning HP but I've also seen a javelina and some wild dogs absorb up to 6 9mm hits before going down.

Most yotes won't be thick enough to get the bullet to expand and transfer energy. At 9mm velocity, particularly +p the bullet will cruise through. Believe it or not you need a bigger target for most of the current 9mm JHP personal defense ammo to work. You'd be better off with a .45 with more frontal area and energy transfer. Steven Camp has had luck with 9mm PD ammo out of a Browning HP on a couple of does. Again, more target to expand in and transfer energy to. Not saying a 9mm won't kill a yote, but you may experience some "runners".

Edit - just noticed you're in upstate NY. You guys do have some pretty big dogs there... bigger than our 20-30 pounders anyway.
 
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thanks for input
yes the dogs are bigger here on average where i hunt in the northern zone they average 40+ in the southern zone around 30-45 where i hunt
my largest was a 64 lber and my grandfather got a 67 lber
but shot alot ion the 45 -50 lb range

I think a shoulder shot on a yote should do it or a frontal shot anyways
 
The whole purpose of my using the 147gr xtp is the fact that i can load it down to not go through the game.

Everybody wants a super hot load going a zillion fps, however the truth is that you want to tailor your (handgun and rifle) load to stop in the game you are shooting.

This is the reason i went away from the 10mm,.40, .357 etc. Yes i live in black bear country and no i don't need a .500 something to protect myself, crowpopper is 100% correct in realizing that practice is the key to winning if you have to use a pistol to protect yourself instead of a rifle.

If you can make pop cans dance at 40yds, you can protect yourself with a properly loaded 9mm. blue
 
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Originally Posted By: RiflemannOK just for big game the 9 is not legal, you can use it for small game and varmints, I had Deer hunting on my mind yesterday.

Sadly enough, it is perfectly legal.

They took the case length regulations off when they went to the "any centerfire" rule a couple of seasons ago.
The local gun shop sells a lot of AR variants in 9mm for deer guns. "need 9mm for deer" He cant keep them on the shelf.
 
i think in a carbine length a 9 is enough for deer as long as range and shot placement are in check. I mean i muzzle load with a 45 cal roundball all the time and they used to use 36 cals for a long time but id have to have a 50 yard limit IMO
 
I often carry my Glock 17 9mm with me while I coyote hunt. Its not my primary weapon by any means. But I have used it for cripples to avoid huge holes in the hide from my 22-250. On a few occasions I have crippled coyotes with my first shot from my rifle and then found them alive. Its humane to end it with 9mm shot to the head. They don't typically exit and if they do I shoot 124 grain FMJ or Federal 124 gr +p hollow points they don't make a large exit wound. Regardless of the bullet you use the relative low velocity of the handgun rounds is far less devastating than a single round from a high velocity rifle. I hit one 2 years ago at 30+ yards with my 9mm that I would have lost had I not carried my 9mm. I shot a coyote at 215 yards and watched him go down hard I thought. Since I was quite a ways from my ATV I decided to leave my rifle where I was calling from go get the coyote and then pick up my rifle on the way back. You can just about guess what happened. The coyote jumped up at about 25 yards as I approached. I pulled my Glock and shot him trying to run off at 30+ yards. It was a lucky shot that hit him in the ribs and angled into the heart lung area. I was lucky since my first shot had been low and resulted in a front leg hit that may not have been fatal immediately.
 
I have a friend who possesses a Federal Firearms License and I get guns at cost. The other day I was slobbering over a Beretta 92FS 9mm. Got it for little or nuthing. He got me some Magtech Sport Ammunition 9mm Luger 115 Grain Full Metal Jacket. Couldn't wait to get to the range. But at 25 yards I was not impressed. Cannot get the group that I get with my Model 1911 S&W 45 ACP. Then some 'range nut' told me that the 115 grain bullet was too light for accuracy so I went to the 147 grain bullet. Grouping got better but I found that the 45 ACP serves me well. My friend loads them for me. He uses a Nosler 230 gr. FMJ, Unique powder 6.2 gr. pushes it at 880 and the lighter load 6.0 gr. has it flying around 810 which I find more accurate. So when I go out on a stand I take the 1911. Makes me feel like Sgt. Saunders from Combat lugging his 45 on the hip. At 25 yards the 'yote should just lay down. At 50 yards he has a chance, but it's slim if I have a good prop to shoot from.
 
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