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I have 8 twists in bolt guns only, but 40's to 75's are a gimme. I only wish the factory built rifles would get with it and offer their .22 centerfires with an 8 twist. I think it is the way to go. When one of them gets with it and offers a lightweight, well balanced rifle it will be a seller. I don't mean the tikka's with their milkjug magazine rifle's either.