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Wow, you guys really go overboard. I've never lost a Coyote to a V-max and it's probably safe to say I've shot more than most. You probably missed where I said its not designed to hit bone. I take frontal and broadside shots, avoiding the shoulder and they bang flop. Rarely an exit and if they do its usually a small piece of the jacket. It jello's the chest cavity. I don't shoot at running Coyotes. Most people don't have the skill to hit them accurately anyway they just blast away. I shoot them for the fur. If you want to shoot something else that works for you that's fine but don't say V-max's don't work. Plenty of people use them with great results.