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I like 50 gr. in my 223 for yotes I load both Ballistic Tips which work great and as an even cheaper choice which is just as good is the TNT 50 grain by speer I believe its speer anyway its the TNT 50 grain it is really cheap and it does the job without any more pelt damage then the BT. You cant load em any faster then 2600 fps or all you get is a grey streak in the air. They really come apart on impact after penetration on yotes.