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the patterns with the jelly head or the rhino would plaster a deer at 40 yds, you couldn't ask for better patterns. The remington 3-1/2 00 is where its at for buckshot in the sbe or sbe2. If you really want to try some tight shot try the dixie triball 3 in your gun (4-5" patterns @ 40 yds). Three .63 caliber pellets to smoke a whitetail.