Bering Optics Super Yoter R Review

Kirsch

Kirsch

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Specifications: You can view a list of the Super Yoter specifications here

Review: You can read my review of the Super Yoter here

Image Quality: The image quality of the Super Yoter R Prototype is impressive. The video recordings are impacted significantly as Bering Optics uses the highest compression ratio for recordings of any thermal brand I have used. This results in videos that are easier to share and edit. Although often said about many thermals, the view through the eyepiece is so much better than the recordings. In addition, I purposely record my evaluation videos in medium-high humidity conditions. The goal is to provide a fair representation of what end-users can expect to experience not create a marketing video.

Price: $4,595

Ordering: Night Goggles already has a pre-order in with Bering and is starting a list of people who want one. If you want to be included on the list, please send an email to sales@nightgoggles.com or contact Carina at 909-312-5424 X331 who can provide details on the process.

Availability: Bering is planning on an initial production run starting at the end of September. For people who receive thermals from the first production run, the current estimate would be delivery in October. Being on a list with Night Goggles (or any dealer), does not guarantee delivery by this time period. I would not recommend waiting until they are in-stock. Based on the demand for other Bering thermals and the excellence of this product, we unfortunately do not anticipate being able to keep them in-stock for some time.



 
I know the most common question will be how does it compare to the Super Hogster (SH). I talk about this a lot in the review as well as show it in the video. However, the following is a list of items that are unique or improved with the Super Yoter: [*]Better Overall Image: The image quality difference is even greater through the eyepiece than shows on the video. The SH image is good, but the SY is great. [*]Less pixilation on digital zoom: You can zoom to 2-4x with a much clearer image than the SH. [*]Larger FOV while maintaining 3x base magnification: 8.5°x 6.4° on SY vs 7.5°x 5.7° on SH. It doesn't seem like a lot but it is noticeable. [*]Double the video/image storage capacity: 32GB vs 16GB[*]LaRue QR Mount[*]Background Balance of Cool or Warm [*]Zero Adjustments at 1x, 2x, 3x, and 4x: This allows the SY to have zero adjustments < .2" compared to .67" on a SH. [*]Adjustable Stadiametric Height [*]Range Marks [/list]
 
Thanks for the long awaited review Korey, I'm looking forward to getting one for this year!

So the biggest thing I have questions about is the adjustable stadiametric lines. I'm thinking of doing the math and setting it up for 300 yards for point blank impacts, what are your thoughts and intentions??
 
Also kudos to Bering for bringing us a nice product at a reasonable price compared to others, if it is as solid as the Super Hogster they have a win!
 
Originally Posted By: Kino MAlso kudos to Bering for bringing us a nice product at a reasonable price compared to others, if it is as solid as the Super Hogster they have a win! It held up to 90 minutes in a freezer. It also held up to my zero-ice pack challenge which most thermal struggle with. Our coyote season is not open, but I have used it a lot and it has not glitched, locked up, or malfunctioned one time. Most polished prototype I have ever received from Bering.
 
Great video Korey!

Only thing I wished it showed (if you knew) was the yardages to what you were looking at.
 
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Originally Posted By: Pro_huntGreat video Korey! Only thing I wished it showed (if you knew) was the yardages to what you were looking at. Thank you.

I typically list yardages on all my hunting videos. For this video however, it was me just driving around my immediate area looking for animals to film. The yardages on the video are all pretty much under 100 yards or less unless I state it like the cattle at 1400 in the forest fire haze or the car that happened to drive by.

For those that watch the video and read the review, pay extra attention to Range Marks. I asked Bering to add this feature and I believe it will be a game changer for many coyote hunters. The #1 question I get from new thermal coyote hunters is how do I know they are close enough. There aren't a lot of good LRF options especially that are affordable. In thinking through this, I came to the realization most people use a LRF to know if a coyote is within Point Blank Range (PBR). I asked Bering to add this feature and they did. What I will use it for is my gun's point blank range is roughly 275 yards. I can set the Custom range to a coyote's back height which for a large ND coyote is about .5m. I can set the distance to 275. Now in the reticle, I will see how large a coyote is at 275 yards. When the coyote is bigger than those range marks, I know it is in PBR and I don't have to adjust hold-over. Most people have no clue how powerful this feature really is.

Another feature people should be really excited about is the ability to adjust zero less than .20". In this prototype, the smallest increment was .14". Are you kidding me? This is less than most glass scopes. Bering has told me this could change slightly but I can confidently say the smallest zero increment will be less than .20". Bering has truly knocked it out of the park with this scope.

My last bit of rant is this video was all recorded at greater than 70% humidity. Can you imagine how good the image would look if I took video at 20% or less like most review video are recorded to make them look super good.
 
Korey I agree with the adjustable stadia lines, one thought I was thinking is it would be nice to have it incorporated into the reticle or off to the side so its visible all the time to be even more useful and you never have to push any buttons.

I did something similar with my SH but used the reticle with hash marks and had to memorize it. I took my flambeau full body coyote decoy and measured it with the hash marks at known distances on my rifle range and recorded it. I did it with the decoy at frontal and broadside angles. Thankfully the SH is FFP so it works out at any zoom power. I intend this summer to go a little further and take pictures with my scope and print them out and pin up for visual reference as well.

This leads me to another question, is the distance between hash marks the same values as the SH???
 
Originally Posted By: Kino MKorey I agree with the adjustable stadia lines, one thought I was thinking is it would be nice to have it incorporated into the reticle or off to the side so its visible all the time to be even more useful and you never have to push any buttons. That's exactly what the range marks are. A preset height and distance and they show up in conjunction with whatever reticle you use. This is important because normally when you are in the Stadiametric range finder, the rest of the scope functions don't work correctly such as zoom, and with the range lines they will. If people prefer using the Stadimetric function instead of the range marks, you can still go into the Stadiametric screen, and do on-the-fly ranging and even shoot from that window but you won't be able to use any of the buttons except to adjust the range.

For the Range Marks, you don't have to press any additional buttons once you have it activated. A PBR unique to your weapon available on your screen and applicable to however you want to measure. Ground to back, belly to back, ground to ears, etc. To top it off, not just for coyote but whatever game you want to hunt that you know a measurement. As I stated in my review, I don't love the width of the lines currently and I hope they allow smaller height increments but a huge win even in this prototype.

Originally Posted By: Kino MThankfully the SH is FFP so it works out at any zoom power. I intend this summer to go a little further and take pictures with my scope and print them out and pin up for visual reference as well. The SY Range Finder does scale with zoom so you can use them at an zoom level as well.

Originally Posted By: Kino MThis leads me to another question, is the distance between hash marks the same values as the SH??? I will have to check. My guess is no, but not sure. There are more pixels so this may change the value. If it does, I am sure Bering will have a reticle document available like they do for the SH, and Hogsters.
 
Thanks for the review Kirsch!

FYI to fellow members I was lucky enough to look through the Super Yoter while Korey was testing it. Conditions were pretty terrible, very humid but the image was outstanding! I had high expectations but was still very impressed!

I spent all winter looking through an NVision Halo. I haven't used thermal since March but I believe the Yoter was better than my Halo. The range finding lines are a game changer. No surprise it was an idea brought out by a hard core hunter.

I have a friend looking to purchase a thermal who is new to the game and has been asking what I thought his best purchase would be. Initially I struggled some on what to recommend. After looking through this I told him the decision was easy - he's buying a Yoter!

A layman's opinion FWIW.
 
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Originally Posted By: P&YThanks for the review Kirsch! FYI to fellow members I was lucky enough to look through the Super Yoter while Korey was testing it. Conditions were pretty terrible, very humid but the image was outstanding! I had high expectations but was still very impressed!

After looking through this I told him the decision was easy - he's buying a Yoter! A layman's opinion FWIW. P&Y, thanks for adding your perspective. You have used lots of thermals and some that I haven't, so great to hear your thoughts. It is always difficult to compare unless using 2 thermals during extended periods of time, side by side. However, putting a Super Yoter in a similar class of any thermal running a BAE core and costing 2x more money, says a lot.
 
Korey, thank you for providing this information and for your responsiveness to inquiries. Your knowledge and willingness to share is big plus for us regular folks but you are a big minus to my bank account, lol.
 
Originally Posted By: bcturkeynutKorey, thank you for providing this information and for your responsiveness to inquiries. Your knowledge and willingness to share is big plus for us regular folks but you are a big minus to my bank account, lol. Glad I can help, and sorry about the bank account.
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Fantastic video and review Kirsch. Really appreciate your inputs to the forum and the hunting community. Looks like a fantastic thermal for sure.
 
I think virtually everyone who visits the Predator Master's Night Hunting Forum and reads my posts knows how much I enjoy using the Super Hogster as well as the Hogsters and Phenom. There is nothing about the release of the Super Yoter that changes that. The Hogster line up is still a great "bang for your $" option in my opinion.

Virtually all of the comments I have received on the image quality of the Super Yoter have been on how impressed people are especially for +70% humidity. However, there have been a few people who expressed to me they thought the image difference would probably be more especially on the black-hot comparison.

The answer is it is. Video compression along with cramming multiple images down to fit on one screen makes the difference seem less. I had the image brightness turned down too far when recording the black hot portion for the SY. I had some additional video footage of the coyotes that I didn't use because as I started to record with the SY, the female left and the videos didn't match. However, here is a screenshot from the SY and the SH on the same night, same zoom (1x) and about 30 seconds apart. I think this image should illustrate there is a fairly significant difference in image detail between the two. I am not saying someone needs to have a 640 resolution scope to shoot coyotes as I proved the SH works just fine on over 300 coyotes last year. To many users, the image and additional features will be worth the $1,400 higher price tag, and to others, it will not be. I am glad there are choices.

Super Yoter:
Scopes_Compare_black_SY.jpg


Super Hogster:
Scopes_Compare_black_SH.jpg

 
Great information as always. Looking at the pictures side by side I would say either would deliver a projectile to the intended target. And as has been stated, quite accurately.
 
Originally Posted By: crazyyote Looking at the pictures side by side I would say either would deliver a projectile to the intended target. Agreed, but this is a coyote at around 30 yards. The further the object gets away, the tougher it can be to ID. Again, I want to reiterate, I am not putting down the Super Hogster. It did everything I asked mine to do last year and I am pretty sure it is what my hunting partner will be using this hunting season.

The move to 640 resolution tends to be more of a want vs need. However, the 640 resolution units, especially the ones with a higher base magnification, tend to help PID at greater distances which can be helpful as well.
 


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