Just saw this and thought I post it. http://news.yahoo.com/giant-hog-boar-hunter-caught-500-pounds-133815315.html
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Chupathingy
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Originally Posted By: rmanwow thats big
It's also a case of forced perspective....
FYI, all the 10' western diamondbacks you see on the internet are fake as well.
Chupa
It's also a case of forced perspective....
FYI, all the 10' western diamondbacks you see on the internet are fake as well.
Chupa
Forced perspective doesn't change the 500 pounds.
So, are you saying it is not 500 pounds?
RayB
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That's what I'm saying.
The story states that he killed a 500 pound hog. No mention of an actual weight. Just an estimated 500 pounds. Most people can't accurately estimate the weight of any animal. Myself included.
I have two domesticated pigs as big or bigger than the one in this picture and neither of them are over 400 pounds.
You're a Wildlife Biologist, right? What are the odds a wild hog will get that big? How many have you seen or heard about from credible sources? 400-500 pound, truly wild, not pen raised, not domestic, not barred, honest to goodness wild hogs?
The story states that he killed a 500 pound hog. No mention of an actual weight. Just an estimated 500 pounds. Most people can't accurately estimate the weight of any animal. Myself included.
I have two domesticated pigs as big or bigger than the one in this picture and neither of them are over 400 pounds.
You're a Wildlife Biologist, right? What are the odds a wild hog will get that big? How many have you seen or heard about from credible sources? 400-500 pound, truly wild, not pen raised, not domestic, not barred, honest to goodness wild hogs?
Personally, the biggest feral hog I have seen was about 360. The biggest I have killed and weighed myself was a 230 boar. I have killed a few more that I suspect were somewhat larger, but I did not actually weight them.
You are right that most over estimate the weight of hogs. It does say that the hog was weight on a tabbaco scale, but nothing more than that.
I have seen bars that were over 400 in the wild.
This boar was the 230 pound one.
This boar was killed a couple of weeks earlier and was about the same size but I didn't weight him.
I did not weight this one, but I know it was over 200 but can't say for sure how much.
These all look a lot smaller than the one from NC.
This yellow sow was 180.
I am sure this sow was over 200 but I was a long ways from the truck.
You are right that most over estimate the weight of hogs. It does say that the hog was weight on a tabbaco scale, but nothing more than that.
I have seen bars that were over 400 in the wild.
This boar was the 230 pound one.
This boar was killed a couple of weeks earlier and was about the same size but I didn't weight him.
I did not weight this one, but I know it was over 200 but can't say for sure how much.
These all look a lot smaller than the one from NC.
This yellow sow was 180.
I am sure this sow was over 200 but I was a long ways from the truck.
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Chupathingy
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My point is that he has already proven himself to be deceitful by "doctoring" the photo, why would I believe his estimation of the weight as well?
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Chupathingy
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I, like you Sean have killed more than my fair share of hogs. And I am not ashamed to say that on multiple occasions have killed a 400lb hog only to weigh it and find out it was 275-300lb's. Those were truly magnificent beasts and still a long way from 500. Sorry, I'm just skeptical I guess.
Chupa
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I am a skeptic more time than not, myself. Especially when it come to black panthers, mountain lion sighting in general, and "estimated" bobcat weights, and the estimated hog weights unless I know the person doing the estimating.
I also forgot about the guy calling out the alligator weights on Swamp People. Grossly misrepresented most of the time.
I don't know if that hog was 500 pounds, but I will say that it is not your average hog, and looks to be WAY bigger than those I posted.
I tried to find some "certified" weights of really pig feral hogs, but could not really find anything. The problem (at least around here) is that it is hard to find certified scales to weight something like that unless you go to a truck stop or something, and that is usually more effort than you want to go to. Now, if I killed one like that, I would probably go to the effort for the very reasons this thread points out.
I also forgot about the guy calling out the alligator weights on Swamp People. Grossly misrepresented most of the time.
I don't know if that hog was 500 pounds, but I will say that it is not your average hog, and looks to be WAY bigger than those I posted.
I tried to find some "certified" weights of really pig feral hogs, but could not really find anything. The problem (at least around here) is that it is hard to find certified scales to weight something like that unless you go to a truck stop or something, and that is usually more effort than you want to go to. Now, if I killed one like that, I would probably go to the effort for the very reasons this thread points out.
Chupathingy
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Couldn't agree more.
You're right about the narrator on Swamp People, he is often waaay off on his estimations.
Chupa
You're right about the narrator on Swamp People, he is often waaay off on his estimations.
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RayB
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Chupa, that's what I'm saying. When you start with a "staged" picture, everything you say after that is suspect.
I've killed my share of pigs too. The few I weighed were no where near as big as I thought they were. I've also been around a ton of domesticated pigs. A 500 pound domestic pig, carrying way more fat, length and girth than wild pigs, is a very, very large animal. The body proportions just don't add up on this pig in the article (head to body, ears to head, length of body to head, etc). He's a beast, that's for sure and something to be very proud of......he's just not 500 pounds.
Here's an example of staging a picture and what camera angles can do. This hog weighed about 100 pounds. I was using my foot to keep him propped up so I was fairly close to him. Had I backed up another foot or so, he would have looked even bigger.
Here's a couple we played around with. Both were about 50 pounds...maybe 60. We backed up about 2-3 feet and hunched down to get low while taking the picture from just a couple inches off the ground
I've killed my share of pigs too. The few I weighed were no where near as big as I thought they were. I've also been around a ton of domesticated pigs. A 500 pound domestic pig, carrying way more fat, length and girth than wild pigs, is a very, very large animal. The body proportions just don't add up on this pig in the article (head to body, ears to head, length of body to head, etc). He's a beast, that's for sure and something to be very proud of......he's just not 500 pounds.
Here's an example of staging a picture and what camera angles can do. This hog weighed about 100 pounds. I was using my foot to keep him propped up so I was fairly close to him. Had I backed up another foot or so, he would have looked even bigger.
Here's a couple we played around with. Both were about 50 pounds...maybe 60. We backed up about 2-3 feet and hunched down to get low while taking the picture from just a couple inches off the ground
bubblejunkie
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Don't wanna steal thread but guess weight? Before you read its on a full size pickup
http://www.spearfishingplanet.com/land-hunting/17624-no-grouper-bad-weather-bad-pork.html
http://www.spearfishingplanet.com/land-hunting/17624-no-grouper-bad-weather-bad-pork.html
Oconee Plotts
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Nice hog. I'd say 280-300 max.
bubblejunkie
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It was 274 properly gutted, Bar hog of course. Very fat and great eating.
Oconee Plotts
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It's funny how so many of these wild hogs get estimated to weigh so much over their actual weight. My husband has hog hunted for years and it just kills him when someone starts telling about these 500# pigs they are seeing. Tame hog maybe, wild hog not likely. LoL
Rocky1
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Dressed weight on a domestic hog, you lose roughly 28%... Head, hide, entrails, and feet.
Typically on a wild hog that percentage is a tad higher, because they don't as a rule pack the body fat that a domestic hog does, therefore Head, hide, entrails, and feet comprise a greater percentage of their total body weight.
That critter however, according to the write up on the spearfishing website was a Bar Hog, was quite healthy, and packing lots of fat, so one would likely be closer to live weight based on the percentages for domestic hogs. Thus if you take the known factors of dressed weight and percentage of weight of carcass, you can get pretty close to live weight.
274 lbs/72 (the percentage of live weight) = 3.43 lbs. per each 1%
3.43 lbs x 28% loss = 96.04 lbs. loss
274 lbs. dressed weight + 96.04 lbs. loss = 370 lbs. give or take a few pounds.
Last time I saw a wild hog that layed across the endgate on a full size pickup like that, he weighed just shy of 390 lbs. and had nuts the size of grapefruit. But that was a long time ago. I gave him 350 before reading the rest of the thread and doing the math. He ain't your average wild pig!
Typically on a wild hog that percentage is a tad higher, because they don't as a rule pack the body fat that a domestic hog does, therefore Head, hide, entrails, and feet comprise a greater percentage of their total body weight.
That critter however, according to the write up on the spearfishing website was a Bar Hog, was quite healthy, and packing lots of fat, so one would likely be closer to live weight based on the percentages for domestic hogs. Thus if you take the known factors of dressed weight and percentage of weight of carcass, you can get pretty close to live weight.
274 lbs/72 (the percentage of live weight) = 3.43 lbs. per each 1%
3.43 lbs x 28% loss = 96.04 lbs. loss
274 lbs. dressed weight + 96.04 lbs. loss = 370 lbs. give or take a few pounds.
Last time I saw a wild hog that layed across the endgate on a full size pickup like that, he weighed just shy of 390 lbs. and had nuts the size of grapefruit. But that was a long time ago. I gave him 350 before reading the rest of the thread and doing the math. He ain't your average wild pig!