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Built one back in 78 or 79. It was from Thompson Center. Went together pretty easily. The hardest part was the preperation of the barrel. Would have been easier to just have it blued, but back then money was scarce. Shot round balls and they were really accurate out to 100 yards. Also changed out the primer nipple for one that used 209 primers. That really helped when it rained. Havn't seen those nipples around for a long time. Havn't look either, so mabey thats why I havn't seen them. It was a Hawken. Also built a long rifle but didn't like it as much.