Calling all Coyote Hunters in Kansas!

DAAVEED1590

DAAVEED1590

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Hello Gentlemen!

My name is David. I'm very new to Predator Masters Forums, although Ive been reading posts (on here) for a while now. I'm a 21 year-old National Guard soldier, college student, and avid outdoorsmen. I got into predator hunting last year, specifically coyotes. I thought that by joining this forum I could tap into the knowledge of more experienced predator hunters.

I live in Northeast Kansas, and am looking for a more experienced coyote hunter to show me the ropes. I have most of the equipment, but my skills need refinement. In other words I'm looking for a hunting partner, of sorts.


I hope your not turned off by the innocence of this post. I know predator hunters don't like to give up their secrets, but I assure you I'll put them to good use. I won't intrude, aha. Any and all advise is welcome. I'm happy to be a part of Predator Masters.

Feel free to send me a PM or an email.

Warm regards

-David
 
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Welcome to Predator Masters David.

I was born in NE Kansas. Good Folks! Good Country!

My suggestion would be that you keep up the research here and spend the upcoming Off-Season scouting around for access to some fresh hunting ground. If you are able to find some good access I would bet someone (not too far away) would be happy to ride along and "Show You the Ropes" next fall.

Good Luck! Have Fun!
 
Hey David, good to have you. I lived in far NE Kansas for a few years. Those folks farm some pretty good hillsides. At the bottom are usually trees and creeks. Find creek bottoms with active sign, then drop in over the top of the hill a little, overlooking those bottoms and call them up out of them.
 
Thank you, I'm a Cavalry Scout (19D) with 2-137 Infantry, 35 Infantry Division. I find that my training in reconnaissance has a lot of application in my hobby as a (amateur) predator hunter. From your question I can tell that you might be a military guy, if so thank you for your service.
 
Originally Posted By: MasterBlasterWelcome! Thank you for your service . What's your MOS?
MB

Thank you, I'm a Cavalry Scout (19D) with 2-137 Infantry, 69th Troop Command. I find that my training in reconnaissance has a lot of application in my hobby as a (amateur) predator hunter. From your question I can tell that you might be a military guy.
 
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Originally Posted By: flintrockHey David, good to have you. I lived in far NE Kansas for a few years. Those folks farm some pretty good hillsides. At the bottom are usually trees and creeks. Find creek bottoms with active sign, then drop in over the top of the hill a little, overlooking those bottoms and call them up out of them.

Appreciate the advise. My usual tactic is to set on the side of a field (farm or otherwise, somewhere I have good visibility), call electronically or with my hand-calls, and wait for what comes.

I've also used hills/knolls a few times, as they are plentiful in this part of Kansas. Set up just like you said. Most of the time I find coyote fur that was snagged on a fence via a run, or tracks and scat and head up the nearest hillside and call from there. Usually I get nothing. However, I think I'm meeting the classic "calling coyotes that aren't there" problem. Don't know if I'm messing up my approach, or if the signs I look for are strong enough indicators of coyote proximity. Do you suggest any more effective way of locating coyotes? Should I try using a lore, as they might be looking for visual confirmation of the noise of the animal I am making.
 
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Originally Posted By: DoubleCKWelcome to Predator Masters David.

I was born in NE Kansas. Good Folks! Good Country!

My suggestion would be that you keep up the research here and spend the upcoming Off-Season scouting around for access to some fresh hunting ground. If you are able to find some good access I would bet someone (not too far away) would be happy to ride along and "Show You the Ropes" next fall.

Good Luck! Have Fun!

Haha, indeed we Kansans are a good hardworking, simple, hearty people. I get made fun of by my relatives for living in "fly-over country" but I wouldn't live anywhere else if you payed me. A lot of the farmers around here are veterans, good men, who certainly live and breathe hunting. Gotta love those pretty country girls too
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I've already done some scouting, and look into getting in contact with local land owners. I hear that counties keep records of land ownership, how its divided up, and contact information. That might be a good resource, although they might think its creepy I'm randomly calling them like that. Oh well, whatever it takes!
 
Originally Posted By: DAAVEED1590Originally Posted By: flintrockHey David, good to have you. I lived in far NE Kansas for a few years. Those folks farm some pretty good hillsides. At the bottom are usually trees and creeks. Find creek bottoms with active sign, then drop in over the top of the hill a little, overlooking those bottoms and call them up out of them.

Appreciate the advise. My usual tactic is to set on the side of a field (farm or otherwise, somewhere I have good visibility), call electronically or with my hand-calls, and wait for what comes.

I've also used hills/knolls a few times, as they are plentiful in this part of Kansas. Set up just like you said. Most of the time I find coyote fur that was snagged on a fence via a run, or tracks and scat and head up the nearest hillside and call from there. Usually I get nothing. However, I think I'm meeting the classic "calling coyotes that aren't there" problem. Don't know if I'm messing up my approach, or if the signs I look for are strong enough indicators of coyote proximity. Do you suggest any more effective way of locating coyotes? Should I try using a lore, as they might be looking for visual confirmation of the noise of the animal I am making.

There are a number of things I do if calling away from home. Ask the locals where they hear them. Make a trip,or several, near your calling areas at the time of day when they will be howling or moving and listen and watch. You can try a siren or a locator call on your e call and see if they respond, then go to them. I don't very often but some folks use them a lot. If I make a dry stand first thing in the morning or in the evening I will often use a vocal after I've quit the stand, to try and get a response and use that to determine my next stand. I rely most on hearing or seeing them enough to determine their "home areas" and/or fresh sign combined with terrain and habitat. Right after a snow or rain is a great time to look for sign.

I can only speculate on your approach and stands. If you are out looking for sign and are in the sight/sound/smell range of a coyote chances are pretty good that they won't hang around. Instead of finding sign and heading up the nearest hill try driving around behind it and then walk over it from the backside. Your exposure is a lot less.

If I'm hunting new ground that I've not had a chance to scout, I will often pick what looks like a good spot and just go in and call it, then scout after the stand. That way I don't take as much of a chance of spooking one out by scouting first.

Go to the landowner and ask, don't call! Your success rate will be much greater in acquiring land to hunt. Just my opinion.
Good Luck!
 
Originally Posted By: flintrock Go to the landowner and ask, don't call! Your success rate will be much greater in acquiring land to hunt. Just my opinion.
Good Luck!






I second this!!
Some landowners may not mind a stranger calling them, to ask for permission.
But, MOST will likely be polite, yet in the end, tell you no.

...Go to them in person.
...Go during daylight hours.
...You don't need to "dress up", but wear decent clothes, and, not camo.
...Don't wait until the last minute to go ask. Even if you aren't planning on hunting until Fall, (IMHO) it doesn't hurt to start contacting landowners now.
...DON'T bug landowners during harvest!
...If you feel that you are capable, and your work/family schedule allows it, offer to occasionally help the landowner do something: fix fence; work cattle; if you're mechanical, maybe help do some maintenance on machinery; there's not many who still bale hay in small "square" bales, but offer to help in the hay field. Some landowners won't take the help offered. But others do, especially if they are short-handed.
...IMHO, don't contact landowners, while you have a gun in the vehicle. It used to be an OK thing, because a lot of farmers carried guns in the gun rack. But, in today's world, you just never know how someone might react.

...And, in my personal opinion...when contacting landowners, be humble, courteous & polite. If a landowner tells you "no"...even if he gives you an attitude when he says it...be respectful & thank him for his time.




As for finding out who landowners are, most county clerk, or county treasurer (or registry of deeds) offices, willingly can give you the info you need...if you can tell them a physical location or address of the land you are interested in.
In other words, when driving around, you see a piece of land you think you might want to hunt. Look for the road name signs at the intersection nearest the land. Try to gauge the size of the acreage.
In an area with housing nearby, you might also write down the address' off mailboxes.
Then take the info that you gathered, to the courthouse, and ask if they might tell you who owns the property you want to hunt.
They might charge you a fee. Or they might not.

I know that in Ottawa county (north-central part of state), I used to go to the office, and they would copy off various township maps (that told both who owned what/where landowners lived), for me. And, they wouldn't charge me anything, because these were public records.

However, in Saline county (where I live), they will charge for the same stuff. And, depending on which employee you get, you might get it with an attitude.
 
Finding landowners can be done a few ways. You can find the nearsest ASCS (USDA) office. USDA They can should be able to sell you a plat map of all land ownership in the state. These maps come in a book. 1 county per book. $30?? dollars or so for each county.

There are also some phone apps. Landglide is the only one I've used and only for the free 30 day trial. It's a good app but over $100/year after the trial is up.
 
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Originally Posted By: DAAVEED1590I hear that counties keep records of land ownership, how its divided up, and contact information. That might be a good resource, although they might think its creepy I'm randomly calling them like that. Oh well, whatever it takes!

Here's a website I've used to find land owners. https://www.acrevalue.com/map/
I personally try to find out where they live and ask them face to face. It's harder to tell someone no to their face than it is over the phone. Just my $.02
 
Another thought on plat books.......

If you live in an agricultural area, don't overlook bank "Open House" get togethers; or if the local feed mill or elevator has the same type of "Open House";....or a "Farm Show".


I bring this up, simply for the following reason:

This morning, I attended the Mid-America Farm Show, held this week in Salina.
As someone who grew up on a farm, and around farmers, I always like to see what's new.
Plus....I like to go get free stuff!! Hahaha

Anyway...one of the booths (as always) was for the bank that my mom worked at for 45 yrs ('til retirement)...the Bank Of Tescott.
(Tescott is a small town northwest of Salina, in Ottawa county.)

One of the items that they were giving out, for free, were soft-cover copies of the Ottawa county plat book!!
 
You've gotten good advice so far, and I second asking in advance. Especially in the southern part of the state where I am, a lot of ground is leased up for deer season, and many owners don't want people on it before of during deer season. If it's not spoken for already, it may be by summertime.

Some parts of the state, deer hunting takes precedence, and there are always guys chasing with dogs too, so there are lots of hunting demands on the land in most parts of KS.
 
This sounds alot like where i originally come from (SC Kansas). If the landowners are from out of state you're probabaly wasting your time even calling them, this ground was bought as a vacation destination and nothing more.
 
Originally Posted By: canislatrans54Another thought on plat books.......

If you live in an agricultural area, don't overlook bank "Open House" get togethers; or if the local feed mill or elevator has the same type of "Open House";....or a "Farm Show".


I bring this up, simply for the following reason:

This morning, I attended the Mid-America Farm Show, held this week in Salina.
As someone who grew up on a farm, and around farmers, I always like to see what's new.
Plus....I like to go get free stuff!! Hahaha

Anyway...one of the booths (as always) was for the bank that my mom worked at for 45 yrs ('til retirement)...the Bank Of Tescott.
(Tescott is a small town northwest of Salina, in Ottawa county.)

One of the items that they were giving out, for free, were soft-cover copies of the Ottawa county plat book!!
They don't print plat books anymore. I believe they stopped a few years ago.
 
Bail...You may very well be correct. I will not doubt you.

Sir, all I know is the following:
It is "current", as of Jan. 1, 2017.
On the cover, it has the words "plat book".
The rest of the cover (being a "free" soft cover edition), is covered with sponsor ads (grain/feed locations; the bank; insurance agents; ect).

And, the contents are the same kind of info I have always gotten from the county offices.
....the county split into it's townships, with each township having it's own page;
....then the townships broken down to section numbers;
....who owns each piece of property (whether it be an individual, a trust, or a LLC, ect;
....the number of acres in said properties;
....if there is a residence, it lists the "current" resident;
....There is also a directory, with landowner address' to go along with the names.
 


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