Calling in Arkansas and Missouri.....whats the trick??

Red Lobo

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Ok, so I've been having a bit of a dry spell lately and I'm starting to think either I really suck at this, or I need to try something different. lol We had a bit of snow this past weekend so I took the Shockwave out to give it a try. There were tracks and sign EVERYWHERE!!! No doubt there are plenty of coyotes in the area, but I cant seem to call one in to save my life. I have generally been calling the rougher looking pastures thinking the cover will make them feel good about coming out to play but so far no luck (I don't know if the sub zero temps had anything to do with it or not) Normally I set the shockwave out and play a cottontail distress of one sort or another. I don't hear as well as I used to so I turn it up til I think it sounds ok.....usually between 20-30 for those familiar with the Shockwave. I know out west you can call wide open country and they cross it because they're used to not having much cover, but what about this country where there are woods and lots of cover? Are you better off moving your sets into the timber?? I will also use a Mojo Critter on most sets. In the evenings I hear them howling in the timber, I will try calling from across the pasture but they will not come out of the woods. I just don't know what I'm doing wrong.
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If anyone is having success calling in this part of the country, I'd sure love some advice / ideas.
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Thanks. Frustrated in Arkinsaw.
 
You're in luck! One of the countries best predator hunters also lives in NW Arkansas. Get on arkansasunting.net and look at threads from btech29. He has also has videos on Predator University and has several on youtube.
As for calling in AR, keep at it. I run the Fury and don't know if the volume settings are the same. I run mine anywhere from 14 to 26 depending on wind and terrain.
Also, there are lots of us out there these days, heck, you can buy an Ecaller at WallyWorld, so you might try some sounds other than rabbit.
I live in south west Arkansas, so most of our land is covered with pine plantations with clear cuts mixed in. I hunt both plantation and cut with mixed success.
Keep you chin up and keep calling. There will be lots of blank stands. They just make the successful stands that much more satisfying.
 
Originally Posted By: chickenman Get on arkansasunting.net and look at threads from btech29. He has also has videos on Predator University

He does? Too cool.
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Not so much calling, but the secret is whistling through your missing front teeth if in Arkansas and bang two empty Pabst blue ribbon cans together if in Missouri.


Chupa
 
Chupa,,,I didn't know you were so jealous of us Missouri and Arkansas good ole boys....
Quote: but the secret is whistling through your missing front teeth if in Arkansas and bang two empty Pabst blue ribbon cans together if in Missouri.
Come on up out of Texas sometime and we may teach you a thing or two...
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Originally Posted By: OldTurtleChupa,,,I didn't know you were so jealous of us Missouri and Arkansas good ole boys....
Quote: but the secret is whistling through your missing front teeth if in Arkansas and bang two empty Pabst blue ribbon cans together if in Missouri.
Come on up out of Texas sometime and we may teach you a thing or two...
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Aww, come on OT! That was some funny stuff!


Chupa
 
Originally Posted By: SHamptonI CAN ASSURE YOU HE DOES NOT HAVE VIDEOS ON PREDATOR UNIVERSITY!!!!!

Sorry bout that Shampton. I guess we can call it a "video clip" instead of "video". It was at the end of episode 3. Episode 3 was the one where Tebbe was driving a tractor on the intro to the show.
 
Originally Posted By: Chupathingy and bang two empty Pabst blue ribbon cans together if in Missouri.


Chupa

C'mon now, everyone who knows, knows we use long necks instead of cans! Don't be giving away our secrets.
 
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Btech is a killer. No doubt about it. Ain't any tricks really. I can tell ya this though... The best thing you can do to be successful here is to not listen to what 99% of the people tell ya to do to be successful here, lol. Good luck!
 
Until last week, I had never called a predator with an electronic call except for raccoons.

I could/can get coyotes to answer howls on the e-call, but could not get them to come to the call with distress sounds unless it was an open reed or diaphragm call.

But the more that I learn and the more I "debrief" my stands, the more I realize that other than the presence of a coyote or bobcat within earshot, my approach and setup is probably more important than any sound that I can produce with my mouth calls or e-caller.

I almost forgot - patience and persistence is a must.
 
Red Lobo,,,On the serious side, you might do a look up on an old member named Steve Criner, he's now a rep for one of the Predator Hunting supply companies, but he lives, or lived, around Bolivar MO and was a Coyote Killing fool back around 2006-2009 and may still be when he's not on the road..

You might try to find some of his old threads if they will come up in the search engines...Any advice he gives would be worth paying attention to..
 
Hey Neighbor....been calling Arkansas since I got into it in 2007... Arkansas is tuff, Scouting and Approach have to be the biggest things to success here. Also locking down some land that NO ONE else calls on helps too. I read an article in Predator Extreme that said something about Call while the areas hot. I guess that mean if you here coyotes and nothing comes in get right back out there the next day or as soon as you can. I've been trying this and its working a little. And I'll never forget the day that I saw predator calls and equipment at Wal-Mart....it was a sad day. So use different calls and never the same one twice. And Howls...I start everthing with a Howl. And start the calls at a Low volume...I promise you know more about this than I do but hey Arkansas boy to another.
 
Finding coyotes in Arkansas is the trick. We do have some, but they are only heavily populated in pockets. Close to poultry farms is usually a good bet. Also watch the cattle, catch em when they are calving. Stay away from public ground. This is not Oklahoma or Kansas and you have to work a little harder to get em killed. As far as sounds? A coyote is a coyote, dont matter where you are.

Thanks for the words guys. I did let Tony use a few of my clips a few years ago.
 
I hunt MO exclusively . Texas and Scotland counties. Our farm in Texas County rely had a decrease in coyotes over the last two - three years. Mange and Distemper took its toll. We have taken advantage of the snow fall and scouted out 1000 acres over three days. We found a lot of main trails and intersection s that we marked via gps. Areas that had the best sign were found where several areas of habitat come together. For example long ridge line that meets an overgrown field or pasture next to some thick clear cut. Think of areas where three or more habitats come together. Plan on calling these areas only when the wind is right. With the warm up and melting snow the yotes should be hungry and moving. Planed routes in an out of these areas keeping wind and amount of noise to a minimum. Knowing that there are coyotes present and where they are coming and going goes a long way keeping you motivated and staying on stands longer. Headed out later part of this week. Should have been out sooner but works always seems to get in the way.
 
I can tell you It took me two years to call up a coyote and kill it in Arkansas. I hunt mostly in Central Arkansas but have picked up more ground down in south Arkansas in the past few years. I never did much scouting and always set up where I could hunt. I can see the benefit of scouting but when you only have a couple hundred acres you have to hunt where you can. Which was probably the reason it took me two years to finally connect. I spent a lot of time hunting fields and just never did any good. Clear cuts and pipelines have been better than fields. I have used several decoys and had the most luck with a couple of feathers tied to a stick. I have had the most luck right at daylight and after the first hour I start hunting bobcats or using bird sounds in heavy cover. Hunting Arkansas can be down right depressing most of the time but it sure puts a grin on your face when you connect. Rick
 


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