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I use a. J. Dewey one piece coated rod and jags by the same. I rarely use a brush, just patches with Shooters Choice. This is a great combination. The shooters choice is not corrosive and if you let the chemicals work, you will get a clean bore. Every once in a couple years I do a really thorough cleaning and use RB-17. This is more corrosive and you do not want to let the barrel soak. This stuff is great, similar to Sweet's 16 I believe. Foaling shots will are necessary after a treatment with RB-17 or Sweet's. A lot of the bench rest guys use either RB or Sweet's the difference is they clean between each shot. I only clean when I have to.