coy-wolf howl?

Bennett

Bennett

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What in the world is the JS coy-wolf howl supposed to be used for? I have a predator master that I am happy with but can't figure out what a coy-wolf call is supposed to do. Thanks

Bennett
 
Thanks Rich, I just picked up another card with four sounds on it. I haven't tried it out yet but it does have a lone howl on it. Can that also be used as a locator?
 
Bennett,
The lone howl can be used as a locator, but coyotes will actually approach the sound also. Keep it natural though. Two or three howls followed by three minutes or so of silence and then repeat. If nothing shows after a few minutes, you can begin prey distress crys.
 
It can be used as a locator but I use it mainly during the mating season to call in coyotes. The yotes are very territorial this time of the year and will come in aggressively to run off another dog. It is the best sound I've used for calling coyotes from about Dec. to March and about the only sound I use during these months. Like Rich said play about 3 or 4 howls and then sit silent for a few minutes. The coyote will either come in challenge barking or howling or come in silent. Either way they usually come in if their around. Bruce
 
I've used that sound the last two weekends to try to get some video of coyotes and it drew the whole family in.The female with her pups would approach to about 125-150 yards while the male would approach to about 75 yards, maybe a little closer but i just couldn't see him since the woods are so thick right now.The female and her pups would just go crazy yipping barking and howling,while the male would only howl once or twice and then he would come in,he was so close the one time that i could hear him walking around in the dry leaves but just couldn't see him.Well at least i got their vocalizations on tape.
 
When Gerald Stewart was posting on the Shade Tree he explained that they had recorded the howling of a coy-wolf that they had in a pen in back. They did nothing with the recording and forgot about it. When organizing for the company transfer he came across it again, produced and offered it for sale. He wrote that during testing of the vocalization they found that coyotes would respond vocally often but did not approach often. I have a copy of that recording and agree. It is a very deep howl that has to be intimidating to most coyotes. That is why I would expect it to light up the territorial residents and why I would not expect the great majority of coyotes to approach. I sometimes use it as a locator although the group yip-howl works better. (JS Coyote Locator 161)
 
I was tempted to not offer input because you guys did a pretty good job of explaining it without me. I do want to clarify one point made though, that I expressed the believe that coyotes may not approach the sound.

I can imagine that I probably expressed it in this vein though. I believe that some coyotes may not approach it because it does have a deeper tone to it. I believe that phenomenom occurs with Elk also as it pertains to younger satelite bulls responding to our CT119 Bull Elk sound. That deeper tone is the Grey Wolf in Boy coming out. Does that mean when you do get one to challenge the sound it is a bigger dominant coyote. I believe that is true at times for many of us who use it. Is that always the case...no.

Regardless, time has given us the results that leads me to say that the CT168CoyWolf BarkHowls sound is one of the better producers in our line. I originally billed the sound more often as a locator but as others have described it does attract coyotes as well. Thanks for your interest in our products and thanks also to those who are loyal users of our products.
 
Gerald, do you have breakdown of any sort that categorizes the sex and ages of the coyotes that approach that recording? I ask because I would think that would be a dandy sound played within defended territory, but I wouldn't expect an approach response from transients ( as much as 60% of the population at certain times of the year), or subs in overlapping home ranges or border areas.
 
Wish I did Rich. It would be interesting to know. That recording is one of a bigger than average coyote for our parts. I have had some pretty average coyotes come in though so at least not all of them are wimps.
 
Yup, I agree with you Gerald, a wimp is not going to be able to hang on to his territory. I sent the video to you on Wed. you will have it Mon. The Alpha male close up for so long is one of three coyotes that tore the rear end out of a 130lb Rhodesian Ridgeback to the extent that it had to be put down. He's just a typical 25lb. desert dog. Some of those resident pairs have 150lb. attitudes.
 


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