Coyote Kill Pics...(And Story)

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rockinbbar

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Some of you guys don't get the opportunity to see first hand what coyotes are capable of doing. I thought I'd post this story & the pictures I took... /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

On our ranch, the heifers are calving & there has been trouble with coyotes killing the calves while they are being born.

Not only the heifers, but a calf was taken down & killed in another pasture. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

It doesn't take many of these losses to really cut into your bottom line! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif

This is what's left of a baby angus calf after the coyotes killed & ate it in one night.

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The weather was HORRIBLE for calling as well, the past weekend. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif
The winds were blowing with a sustained force of over 50 MPH with gusts close to 70.

The moon was this....

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But, as luck would have it, it would have some degree of calm in the mornings. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grinning-smiley-003.gif

The way we got them out was to back up against a small bush & call the thick brush that we know the coyotes retreat to during the day. Rabbit distress worked just fine to pull out the first pair...Another made a quick appearance, but turned tail soon after the gig was up.

The Payback:

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Another stand produced a single coyote.

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The thing about shooting coyotes for depredation reasons is that they don't stop killing calves, or sheep, so there are some of us that stay after them in the places where it's our job to handle the coyote problems.

Are we sure that these coyotes are the ones that kill calves? Nope. You never can be sure. You just have to take the opportunity to take them out when you can.
Overall, it does do good to get the coyotes out of the picture.
Will it stop all the calf killing? Nope. But it will drastically slow it down. Any calf saved is money in the bank. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

I just thought I'd give a little different perspective about hunting this time of year.

We do usually back out of our "recreational" hunting areas this time of year & focus on problematic areas where coyote ADC work is drastically needed.

Thanks for looking, and I welcome your questions, comments or input.

Barry
 
Well Done rockinbbar as usual. I love your stories and the pics are always first rate as well. Thanks for your contribution to the forum. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bowingsmilie.gif
 
DCK,

I'm going to have to write one up. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smiliesmack.gif

I've used Buster with huge success for over a year now.
I need to have the time to really put it in words about what he does. He has literally cut our wounded coyote losses to zero, plus adding way more coyotes to the count.

Look for it soon.

Thanks for the comments guys. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grinning-smiley-003.gif

Barry
 
Way to go! The dogs in my deer spot have been living the easy life lately. I'm so busy with school, and it's been windy. I want to go get at least one more before the fawns start dropping. Anyway keep at 'em!
 
Great post Barry. You did a nice job of giving the perspective of the cattleman and provided the right photos to illustrate the key points.

Keep it up.
 
Taking those dogs out of the food chain could only help! Sometimes hunting becomes personal. Nice kills and great post!!! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ooo.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grinning-smiley-003.gif
 
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Barry. Would you happen to have a pic of the bottom of the calfs feet???



Tim, the only hoof left was the one you see curled under the bag of bones.
Calves are born soft hooved, they don't harden for several hours after birth, so the coyotes probably ate the rest of the hooves while they were still soft.

Why do you ask?
 
By looking at the hooves you can tell if it was a coyote kill or if the calf was dead at birth and the coyotes where just cleaning up. Either way coyotes around cows canbe badd news..
 
Way to go Barry, nothing beats a little extra money in the bank.Every year about this time, this topic rears its ugly head and causes some folks emotions to run high.We've seen it many times,the thread degenerates into an ugly mess.You see,I believe our country is in a real mess right now.There are a great number of people who wish to take away our guns and our right to hunt.These people,although, misinformed and misguided,base everything on their own raw emotions.Facts are not important,only,does this or that make me feel warm and fuzzy inside.As a group,we need to find a way to maintain some cohesion.There are a vast array of personal opinions out there,even amongst the members of this forum.It is probably as good a time as any to serve up a reminder that there is no right or wrong answer to the seasonal issue,only personal perspective.No one answer fits every person,no one is more noble than another simply because of their personal choice.We all tend to have a group of buddies that are drawn together because of like thinking and habits.And no two groups will ever totally agree on all issues.However,that's really OK,we don't have to agree,we don't have to slam those that believe differently,we should speak our piece and then respect those that believe differently.Unfortunately,we here in Arizona are facing a potential for a monumental rift within
our fraternity.This dilemma will possibly spill over into surrounding states if it is not nipped in the bud right up front.We here in Arizona, as with those of you in other states, find ourselves constantly battling for more rights and freedoms under our respective Game & Fish depts.It has recently come to the attention of some very ardent predator hunters here that, in our midst,there are some with extremely questionable motives.One in particular,has decided that he knows better than we ourselves, what is best for our sport.This individual is adamantly dead set against spring time hunting of coyotes.Now, that's OK,that's his right to believe that, to express that, until he is blue in the face should he so desire,then move on and let it lay.Sadly, that's not enough for this individual and his cabal.He has posted his intentions on the internet,that he will whole heartedly, do everything within his power to persuade our Game & Fish Dept to institute a closed season in this state for coyotes.This individual has decided to cram it down the throats of those who disagree with his philosophy.I will not mention any names, at least at this point, except to say, that if you've been around here any length of time, you know him.He is no longer allowed to post here,and this is just one small example of why he lost those privileges.Now you can imagine the rancor this is and will produce within the ranks of Arizona hunters.It is akin to opening Pandora's box to openly seek restrictions upon the hunting community.His contention is that we will show those nasty old anti hunters that we are thoughtful and caring individuals who can police ourselves. And, by so doing,will gain the respect we so richly deserve.You and I both know that will never happen.This misguided and misinformed individual wishes to strip away another right, simply because he doesn't FEEL that it is the right thing to do.Well,the fight is just beginning,there are many of us,who,regardless of how we feel about this topic,don't believe this individual or any other has the right or the authority to force his beliefs on us.Because of this type of thinking,many reputations are going to suffer,club memberships are in danger of slipping and the potential for losing this and other rights as well is very real.It hasn't been too many years ago here that we had tremendous battles when some appeared with the noble intentions of stopping those terrible hunt contests.Many of these people came from inside the fraternity.We have even more uphill fights to gain the privilege of night hunting and the ability to hunt lions with shotguns.There are many battles that need to be fought, and this coming battle will waste precious energy and time.What ever can possess a person to ASK for more restrictions?Many of us are extremely suspicious of this individuals motives.What's next on the agenda?I can tell you this,the fight is just beginning.

Now one last thing,this post is not intended to start a pissn match regarding which choice is right and which is wrong.Personally, I couldn't care less about the personal choices anyone makes.Problem is,I expect the same latitude in my choices.
 
Way to go Barry and Barbara,I still need to get out to the ranches that my father in law runs run in SE AZ and in NM. Works out for good me, wife gets to see folks and in get to stay away from in laws /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif. The owner of the properties told me don't bother coming unless I'm going to help out with the predators.


John
 
Nice work Barry!

You guys did better than I. The winds chased me out of the dessert.

Hopefully the calling will be better soon.

Jon...
 
"Some of you guys don't get the opportunity to see first hand what coyotes are capable of doing. I thought I'd post this story & the pictures I took...

On our ranch, the heifers are calving & there has been trouble with coyotes killing the calves while they are being born.

Not only the heifers, but a calf was taken down & killed in another pasture.

It doesn't take many of these losses to really cut into your bottom line!"

Yep, same problem in my neck of the woods. I came from Midwest farming stock. I don't make my living raising cattle but I sure know a lot of folks making theirs that way (cattle and sheep). Profit margins are mighty thin right now. The loss of one or two more head can mean the difference between meat or beans for supper for them and their families. ADC (Federal trappers) are so busy right now they can't keep up. California has about 750,000 coyotes right now (2008 numbers). This is up from a 1990 estimate of 250,000. Californians can thank Proposition 4 (passed 1998) which outlawed the use of steel-jawed leg hold traps (and M-44s) for trapping and coyote control in California. Buncha whiny little girls voted for it if you ask me.

I kill coyotes for these folks year round and I, for one, consider it an honor and privilege to help them out when I can. Farmers and ranchers are the backbone of this country providing food and clothing for me and my family. It's [beeep] little, but if I can kill a coyote or two for them, I know they appreciate it. Shoot straight, kill clean, don't apologize.

Marty
 
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