CVA Wolf
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HeadHunter204
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I had an Optima last deer season, took a 120s 8pt at 107 yds. Switched it up to a slug gun this year though. No complaints with my CVA.
jlutcher51
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For the money its a good blackpowder rifle I use winchester muzzleloader 209 primers 100 grains of triple seven and a 310 grain knight bullet and get 1" groups at 100 yards. Most of my shots are around 50 to 75 yards.
mikethehunter
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I have killed a couple deer with my wolf. . .its a great deal for the price, just don't expect T/C quality fit/finish. I krylon'd mine shortly after getting it, and its always shot well enough to kill deer out to 100 yards or so. It does have a terrrible trigger though. . .
hunterintheshadows
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i have two optima pros i like them.they are both very accurate. i use 130gr of triple 7 and 250gr sst in the 50 and 130gr and 200gr sst in the 45.
2muchgun
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Don't forget about all the recalls and all the personal injury lawsuits against CVA.
CVA takes "junk" to a new level.......
http://cvaguncases.com/Case___Information_Page.html
http://cvaguncases.com/
http://cvaguncases.com/Photographs_Page.html
CVA takes "junk" to a new level.......
http://cvaguncases.com/Case___Information_Page.html
http://cvaguncases.com/
http://cvaguncases.com/Photographs_Page.html
Michael396
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My son has the 2010 Wolf and it shoots very well, actually it shoots better than my TC Pro Hunter and the trigger is much better. It is a good price point gun.
Don't let law suits and propaganda scare you. When people post things like that they tend to leave out other important information. CVA did have a run of unsafe guns which were recalled. They have had some quality issues but I think the newer stuff is pretty good. I do recall another manufacturer that has some safety issues as well but did not recall the guns. What was the name of that company again....., oh now I remember, Remington!
Don't let law suits and propaganda scare you. When people post things like that they tend to leave out other important information. CVA did have a run of unsafe guns which were recalled. They have had some quality issues but I think the newer stuff is pretty good. I do recall another manufacturer that has some safety issues as well but did not recall the guns. What was the name of that company again....., oh now I remember, Remington!
2muchgun
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WOW. Really?
Did you happen to actually read the links I posted. Did you see how many of these cases were recent, and how many different recent models were involved?
"Some quality issues"?
How you can compare CVA to Remington is beyond my comprehension. TOTALLY not the same. Remington may be guilty of producing a trigger that a portion of the general shooting public was not smart enough to adjust, but those that are, have zero problems with them. Zero. CVAs, on the other hand, suffer from a total lack of quality control, and always have. That is why they sell for the price of a happy meal.
A misproperly adjusted trigger is dangerous. On any rifle. Yet the so-called expert, Jack Belk, whom the antis hired to testify against Remington, has still to this day been unable to achieve a misfire from a 700 trigger on camera. He admitted it himself, under oath. I'd say Remington has a strong arguement.
On the other hand, pretty hard for CVA to argue with a guy who just had a breech plug surgically extracted from his skull, when the receiver of his CVA has next to no threads in it to retain such plug. Or the fact that there barrels are NOT PRESSURE TESTED and have been known to blow up upon firing. You see, pressure testing costs money, and CVA would not be able to peddle their JUNK for the prices they do if actual quality control had to be put in place. You know, the QC reputable competitors like Knight and T/C implement and pay for. Savage certainly did their homework on their muzzle loaders also.
Is there a site called "Remington Gun cases" with notices of recalls, multiple law suits filed due to personal injury, and pictures of people with their faces blown off, or missing fingers, due to poor quality control/standards that I don't know about?
Did you happen to actually read the links I posted. Did you see how many of these cases were recent, and how many different recent models were involved?
"Some quality issues"?
How you can compare CVA to Remington is beyond my comprehension. TOTALLY not the same. Remington may be guilty of producing a trigger that a portion of the general shooting public was not smart enough to adjust, but those that are, have zero problems with them. Zero. CVAs, on the other hand, suffer from a total lack of quality control, and always have. That is why they sell for the price of a happy meal.
A misproperly adjusted trigger is dangerous. On any rifle. Yet the so-called expert, Jack Belk, whom the antis hired to testify against Remington, has still to this day been unable to achieve a misfire from a 700 trigger on camera. He admitted it himself, under oath. I'd say Remington has a strong arguement.
On the other hand, pretty hard for CVA to argue with a guy who just had a breech plug surgically extracted from his skull, when the receiver of his CVA has next to no threads in it to retain such plug. Or the fact that there barrels are NOT PRESSURE TESTED and have been known to blow up upon firing. You see, pressure testing costs money, and CVA would not be able to peddle their JUNK for the prices they do if actual quality control had to be put in place. You know, the QC reputable competitors like Knight and T/C implement and pay for. Savage certainly did their homework on their muzzle loaders also.
Is there a site called "Remington Gun cases" with notices of recalls, multiple law suits filed due to personal injury, and pictures of people with their faces blown off, or missing fingers, due to poor quality control/standards that I don't know about?
CalCoyote
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Originally Posted By: 2muchgunWOW. Really?
Did you happen to actually read the links I posted. Did you see how many of these cases were recent, and how many different recent models were involved?
"Some quality issues"?
How you can compare CVA to Remington is beyond my comprehension. TOTALLY not the same. Remington may be guilty of producing a trigger that a portion of the general shooting public was not smart enough to adjust, but those that are, have zero problems with them. Zero. CVAs, on the other hand, suffer from a total lack of quality control, and always have. That is why they sell for the price of a happy meal.
A misproperly adjusted trigger is dangerous. On any rifle. Yet the so-called expert, Jack Belk, whom the antis hired to testify against Remington, has still to this day been unable to achieve a misfire from a 700 trigger on camera. He admitted it himself, under oath. I'd say Remington has a strong arguement.
On the other hand, pretty hard for CVA to argue with a guy who just had a breech plug surgically extracted from his skull, when the receiver of his CVA has next to no threads in it to retain such plug. Or the fact that there barrels are NOT PRESSURE TESTED and have been known to blow up upon firing. You see, pressure testing costs money, and CVA would not be able to peddle their JUNK for the prices they do if actual quality control had to be put in place. You know, the QC reputable competitors like Knight and T/C implement and pay for.
That would make a great advertisement:
Clint Eastwood stands there holding a CVA and says, "if you want to buy a CVA you just have to ask yourself one question.....do you feel lucky?"
Did you happen to actually read the links I posted. Did you see how many of these cases were recent, and how many different recent models were involved?
"Some quality issues"?
How you can compare CVA to Remington is beyond my comprehension. TOTALLY not the same. Remington may be guilty of producing a trigger that a portion of the general shooting public was not smart enough to adjust, but those that are, have zero problems with them. Zero. CVAs, on the other hand, suffer from a total lack of quality control, and always have. That is why they sell for the price of a happy meal.
A misproperly adjusted trigger is dangerous. On any rifle. Yet the so-called expert, Jack Belk, whom the antis hired to testify against Remington, has still to this day been unable to achieve a misfire from a 700 trigger on camera. He admitted it himself, under oath. I'd say Remington has a strong arguement.
On the other hand, pretty hard for CVA to argue with a guy who just had a breech plug surgically extracted from his skull, when the receiver of his CVA has next to no threads in it to retain such plug. Or the fact that there barrels are NOT PRESSURE TESTED and have been known to blow up upon firing. You see, pressure testing costs money, and CVA would not be able to peddle their JUNK for the prices they do if actual quality control had to be put in place. You know, the QC reputable competitors like Knight and T/C implement and pay for.
That would make a great advertisement:
Clint Eastwood stands there holding a CVA and says, "if you want to buy a CVA you just have to ask yourself one question.....do you feel lucky?"
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Michael396
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Every time I post something you have something to respond back with. I guess Remington is the only company that has end users doing something wrong. Nobody has ever loaded a muzzleloader with a double charge or smokeless powder to cause an issue. I am not denying that CVA has problems and safety concerns. For the record, I have a Remington 700 that had the trigger problem. It is dangerous and remington said it is not. The problem is not a myth, like it or not. Back to the point though. CVA is a cheap alternative and the Wolf is a decent inexpensive black powder gun. I have not heard of any failures with that particular gun.
If you would like to discuss anything else with me, you can PM me a phone number and we can argue all day if you would like.
If you would like to discuss anything else with me, you can PM me a phone number and we can argue all day if you would like.
2muchgun
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The reason why you have "not heard of any failures with that particular gun", is because ONCE AGAIN, you did not read the link I posted.
http://cvaguncases.com/Case___Information_Page.html
Case #26. 2008 Model CVA Wolf. BARREL EXPLODED causing hearing loss and injury to the shooters face.
Arguing with you on the phone would be fruitless, given you refuse to read what is put directly in front of you. Whatever, you do, don't let the facts get in your way.
Send me your supposedly unsafe 700 trigger. I guarantee you I can send it back functioning in a perfectly safe manner.....
http://cvaguncases.com/Case___Information_Page.html
Case #26. 2008 Model CVA Wolf. BARREL EXPLODED causing hearing loss and injury to the shooters face.
Arguing with you on the phone would be fruitless, given you refuse to read what is put directly in front of you. Whatever, you do, don't let the facts get in your way.
Send me your supposedly unsafe 700 trigger. I guarantee you I can send it back functioning in a perfectly safe manner.....
Dixiedog1
Active member
Originally Posted By: 2muchgunThe reason why you have "not heard of any failures with that particular gun", is because ONCE AGAIN, you did not read the link I posted.
http://cvaguncases.com/Case___Information_Page.html
That's nothing....sasquatch is real...see link
Sasqautch
Lots of things posted on the net are due to someone's personal agenda....alot of the negativity I read about the CVA comes from one individual or a small fan base that repeats what he has said. I know of several shooters that have CVA's and they love them, I went with TC.... If the CVA was truly that unsafe it would be recalled or CVA would be out of business. There isn't a gun out there that has never had a failure, end users tend to do stupid things and that has catastrophic consequences at times but the manufacturer isn't always to blame.
If you buy into everything Bellm's site says about Encores you'll think you need to buy the Encore, send it off to him for thousands of dollars worth of repairs before you even wipe the cosmoline off....How many guys shoot a factory Encore and are very happy with it?
http://cvaguncases.com/Case___Information_Page.html
That's nothing....sasquatch is real...see link
Sasqautch
Lots of things posted on the net are due to someone's personal agenda....alot of the negativity I read about the CVA comes from one individual or a small fan base that repeats what he has said. I know of several shooters that have CVA's and they love them, I went with TC.... If the CVA was truly that unsafe it would be recalled or CVA would be out of business. There isn't a gun out there that has never had a failure, end users tend to do stupid things and that has catastrophic consequences at times but the manufacturer isn't always to blame.
If you buy into everything Bellm's site says about Encores you'll think you need to buy the Encore, send it off to him for thousands of dollars worth of repairs before you even wipe the cosmoline off....How many guys shoot a factory Encore and are very happy with it?
2muchgun
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I find the mere insinuation that multiple personal injuries/lawsuits/recalls spanning some 20yrs are as fabricated as the myth of sasquatch to be ludicrous. Furthermore, the implication that they are the result of one individual's personal agenda only adds to the absurdity.......
Dixiedog1
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Originally Posted By: 2muchgunI find the mere insinuation that multiple personal injuries/lawsuits/recalls spanning some 20yrs are as fabricated as the myth of sasquatch and the accomplishment of one individual's personal agenda hilarious.......
That wasn't a direct comparision, it was however a reference to the validity of all information you see on the net....some is true,other info is exaggerated.
I saw a video on Youtube of Ruger's LCR getting flame cut above the cylinder and the owner going crazy like it was going to fall apart.....S+W's have been doing that for years....flame cutting in revolvers to a certain degree is normal....Does that mean nobody should buy a LCR because they aren't safe?
Last I knew CVA was very much in business....are they still selling new firearms?
Better watch out for Knight as well.....they are an accident waiting to happen
Knight loses lawsuit
That wasn't a direct comparision, it was however a reference to the validity of all information you see on the net....some is true,other info is exaggerated.
I saw a video on Youtube of Ruger's LCR getting flame cut above the cylinder and the owner going crazy like it was going to fall apart.....S+W's have been doing that for years....flame cutting in revolvers to a certain degree is normal....Does that mean nobody should buy a LCR because they aren't safe?
Last I knew CVA was very much in business....are they still selling new firearms?
Better watch out for Knight as well.....they are an accident waiting to happen
Knight loses lawsuit