Do coyote hunters tend to be over-scoped?

frankr

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In all of my Internet Cruising I see that choosing a scope power most users seem to be falling within 3 groups

1. Low Power – (e.g. 1-4, 1.5-5, etc..)
2. Mid Power – (e.g. 2-7, 3-9, 3.5-10, etc…)
3. High Power – (e.g. 6.5-20, 8.5-2X, etc…)

But most of the users tend to be in the mid to high power range. Whether due to habit, recommendations, or needs. I can see why PD shooters, Long-range shooters, Rimfire Competitor shooters, paper punchers, etc… use the high powers that they do.

But I am curious especially after reading two recent threads (If you only had 1 option for magnification) and (what magnifications settings most often used for hunting?) if most people who go buy scopes are “over powered” for their use. I know from my experience that I tend to leave the scope on the lowest magnification and I rarely change it.

I have watched some of the 3 gun guys and it seems that with practice they can engage targets with what I would have normally considered “not enough” magnification at long distances. Now granted some of the target are 18”x18” but I doubt right now I could do the same with the same magnification.

Also I have had coyotes in so close and chasing the decoy dog around that the 3-9 scope I was using was too much.

Most of the coyotes that I have called in and shot have been < 150 yrds and most of those have been < 70 yrds.

I guess my whole point of my posting is to see if you guys think that many of today’s coyote hunters are “over scoped” for calling in coyotes?

Do you think most would be better served with a lower magnification scope that would give them a wider field of view?

When I was saving for a higher magnification scope (5.5-2X) I kept telling myself it was to take coyotes at 500+ yards. But I have to I could count on one hand (probably only half a hand) when I could have shot at a coyote at 500 yards.

I keep thinking if low-magnification works on coyotes for AR-15’s why wouldn’t it work for bolt action also and yet I don’t see many bolt action coyote rifles with low-magnification scopes.


Sorry for the rambling but I thought I would share and am curious what you guys think
 
Over scoped is like saying over gunned. Its all relitive and who are you or me to decide what is too much. There is my opinion.
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I have guns with all sizes, the one I use is the one that works best for the environment I will be hunting in.
 
I used to be over scoped.
I started with a 4-16, then went to 3-9, then 2-7 and now I have a 1.5-4 on my primary calling rifle.
I hunt in somewhat brushy country and all of my shots are 100 yards or less and most of the shots are 60 yards or less.
That's why I am using the lower power scope.
Works for me.
 
I think a 3-9 is pretty well suited for most applications. I tend to stay closer to 3 at the start and turn up if desired.
 
I believe it is different for every person. If I had the funds Id have a Barrett or McMillan TAC-50 and Id shoot prarie dogs with it.....to each their own, thats my 2cts.
 
I used to use a 2.5-8 but soon realized that because I always carry a shotgun my scope would stay at about 6 power. I now have a 4.5-14 that still stays at 6 but now I can get out there if a coyote holds up.
 
Right, or wrong, I had the idea ( oh no, run away!) that a large objective would let in more light for my tired old eyes in low light conditions. I have a 3 x 9 x 50 Minox on my AR.
 
Originally Posted By: 3DHUSKEROver scoped is like saying over gunned.
exactly... some people may feel the need for more power, i don't have one scope on any of my rifles that is less that 15X @ max.
 
Over scoped - yes I think so. It's a fad attributed to the "tacticool" craze. After all... everybody wants to be a sniper, right? LOL... much of that is tongue in cheek, but in some cases there might be a nugget of truth there. I was at the local gunshop over the weekend and some guy came in wearing a pair of black BDU's and camo top looking for a high power variable for his - are you ready for this - Marlin M336 .30-30. Ok..., that certainly screams for a 4x16x50mm Hubble telescope scope on board.
 
Geez guys, why the judgement? I choose what I like based on my experience and the terrain I live/hunt in. Most places I call you can't hardly find a tree much less a brushy area like you eastern and southern guys. A little magnification doesn't seem to hurt anything out here.

I just don't understand why everyone worries about what others are using? Why does it matter? Having said that, a 4-16x scope on a 30-30 would make me wonder also, lol.
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low end is most important for me, any magnification after 1x and time to crank it up is a bonus. if i had to pick a fixed power it would be a 1x . the only scope i have is on a 1187 slug gun almost always running shots during drives. just got my first centerfire rifle (AR) when i can get a scope it will be a 1x by whatever i can afford. i would stick with irons, but a lifetime of shotgunning makes me always want to focus on my target, instead of frontsight ! frontsight !frontsight!
 
I had a coyote hang up on me at 624yds this last winter in eastern MT and shots there can be long anyways. They had a 3 month long coyote hunting competition and the dogs were very shy. Anyway, I had a 3.5x10 ziess and to be honest, I could have used a little more power.
On my AR here in western MT I use a 1.5x6 which is nearly ideal for this area.
I guess my perfect coyote scope would be say, a 1x14, if everything was on par to my leuppys and ziess.
Oh to have everything.
 
Over Scoped? Yup, but I really like to see the expression. The sight picture is as fun for me...nah more fun than the carcass exam.
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Just swapped out the 2X-7X FF2 for a 4.5X-14X VX3. I think mostly because it is so much handier at the range.
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Just love to look!
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Originally Posted By: 405 win
I guess my perfect coyote scope would be say, a 1x14, if everything was on par to my leuppys and ziess.
Oh to have everything.

Sounds Great! I want mine to weigh just under 10 ounces.
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Scope power to me,,,is like Guns and Condoms,,better to have it and not need it,than the other way around..

4X16x44...low and high enough for everything i need....
2x34x50...would be ok too



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Originally Posted By: GCOver scoped - yes I think so. It's a fad attributed to the "tacticool" craze. After all... everybody wants to be a sniper, right? LOL... much of that is tongue in cheek, but in some cases there might be a nugget of truth there. I was at the local gunshop over the weekend and some guy came in wearing a pair of black BDU's and camo top looking for a high power variable for his - are you ready for this - Marlin M336 .30-30. Ok..., that certainly screams for a 4x16x50mm Hubble telescope scope on board.
hmmm... thats funny, i bet he was hunting dogs with his new high power on top of a 30-30... heck, if it would of been me i usually walk in wearing multicam, not black BDU's LOL, just because someone has a hi power scope he is considered to be a "sniper" wanna be, what happens when you throw on ur bushrag ghillie, should that not be classified as the "tacticool" craze as well, or just a more opportune way to piss pound dogs??? me i'll take every advantage i can get, and if its a High power NXS with a 56mm obj for better light gathering, so be it... after all its what i use to hang fur... and they work SPECTACULARLY
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I appreciate your comments and views
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The reason I ask what you guys think is to get a better idea of what works or doesn't work and why people do the things that they do. I realize that I don't know everything and seeing as I am not made of money I would rather learn from others peoples experiences and hopefully help others with mine (or at least they can learn from my mistakes).

Also while we all hunt coyotes many of us hunt them differently and I enjoy learning about how others hunt coyotes
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I think that many times people associate more magnification with greater ease of precision which then would then equal more success while coyote hunting and in my experience the FOV has been more important than the magnification for me to be successful.

Having said that I have never shot a coyote past 400 yards ...... I have made a few run faster but they were just Hail Mary shots and no amount of magnification would fix poor shots
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Originally Posted By: skinneyOriginally Posted By: GCOver scoped - yes I think so. It's a fad attributed to the "tacticool" craze. After all... everybody wants to be a sniper, right? LOL... much of that is tongue in cheek, but in some cases there might be a nugget of truth there. I was at the local gunshop over the weekend and some guy came in wearing a pair of black BDU's and camo top looking for a high power variable for his - are you ready for this - Marlin M336 .30-30. Ok..., that certainly screams for a 4x16x50mm Hubble telescope scope on board.
hmmm... thats funny, i bet he was hunting dogs with his new high power on top of a 30-30... heck, if it would of been me i usually walk in wearing multicam, not black BDU's LOL, just because someone has a hi power scope he is considered to be a "sniper" wanna be, what happens when you throw on ur bushrag ghillie, should that not be classified as the "tacticool" craze as well, or just a more opportune way to piss pound dogs??? me i'll take every advantage i can get, and if its a High power NXS with a 56mm obj for better light gathering, so be it... after all its what i use to hang fur... and they work SPECTACULARLY
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Did ya miss that part in bold in my post? Honestly - really... I don't worry about what you use so SPECTACULARLY. Bang away and good hunting...
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