Ok any of you have any stories of your farm dog or hunting dogs mixing it up with a yote one on one? On another forum there is a guy saying his lab has 5 confirmed yote kills. I shoulda minded mine own business but threw out the BS call anyway. Maybe it's true? So I thought I'd ask here if anyone else had a "badass" dog? From my experience, not too many hunting dogs would feel very well after a scuffle with yote. Don't care how big or "tough." Am I way off base? Maybe I need to delete my bs call?
Dog vs yote
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Mr. Poppadopalis
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Verg,
I will say it with you!
BS!!
It is not in a Lab's demeanor to kill Coyotes. If anything it would be 1% Lab and 99% Irish Wolfhound.
Yes, you’re off base. A coyote has little chance against a large dog. Odds change dramatically depending on the breed. For example, a wolf can and does kill coyotes easily and a wolf wouldn’t last more than a minute against a pit bull. A lab is a big and strong dog, if it wanted it would probably best a coyote, no problem.
Originally Posted By: MCaryYes, you’re off base. A coyote has little chance against a large dog. Odds change dramatically depending on the breed. For example, a wolf can and does kill coyotes easily and a wolf wouldn’t last more than a minute against a pit bull. A lab is a big and strong dog, if it wanted it would probably best a coyote, no problem.
Think you have that backwards...pitbull wouldn't last one minute against a wolf. Tame animals fight for fun, wild animals fight for survival. Not too many dogs can kill a coyote one vs one. Can they yes...but take a pretty big tough one.
Think you have that backwards...pitbull wouldn't last one minute against a wolf. Tame animals fight for fun, wild animals fight for survival. Not too many dogs can kill a coyote one vs one. Can they yes...but take a pretty big tough one.
Domestic dogs eat dog food and make happy faces at people for a living. Coyotes kill and eat chit for a living.
I have been privileged to watch full time working coyote dogs work coyotes a few times. Dogs born and bred to go out and mix it up with coyotes. Without the Man with a Rifle to back them up, none of them would survive one day on the job.
Sight hounds, big dogs bred to run down and kill, totally different story. But labs ain't on the same planet with them.
Could there be "a" lab out there with the physique and disposition to have a 5 - 0 record agains coyotes? Sure, it's possible. But it's far, far, FAR from likely.
Ole Jerry Lee "The Killer" at work, after his boss put the quasimodo on the coyote. Jerry Lee was a ball munching SOB and no quit in him. Tough as nails. Lived to mix it up with coyote. But without Cal and his rifle backing him up, he'd have had a much shorter life...
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Originally Posted By: DAA
Domestic dogs eat dog food and make happy faces at people for a living. Coyotes kill and eat chit for a living.
I have been privileged to watch full time working coyote dogs work coyotes a few times. Dogs born and bred to go out and mix it up with coyotes. Without the Man with a Rifle to back them up, none of them would survive one day on the job.
Sight hounds, big dogs bred to run down and kill, totally different story. But labs ain't on the same planet with them.
Could there be "a" lab out there with the physique and disposition to have a 5 - 0 record agains coyotes? Sure, it's possible. But it's far, far, FAR from likely.
Ole Jerry Lee "The Killer" at work, after his boss put the quasimodo on the coyote. Jerry Lee was a ball munching SOB and no quit in him. Tough as nails. Lived to mix it up with coyote. But without Cal and his rifle backing him up, he'd have had a much shorter life...
- DAA
Well said DAA!
Domestic dogs eat dog food and make happy faces at people for a living. Coyotes kill and eat chit for a living.
I have been privileged to watch full time working coyote dogs work coyotes a few times. Dogs born and bred to go out and mix it up with coyotes. Without the Man with a Rifle to back them up, none of them would survive one day on the job.
Sight hounds, big dogs bred to run down and kill, totally different story. But labs ain't on the same planet with them.
Could there be "a" lab out there with the physique and disposition to have a 5 - 0 record agains coyotes? Sure, it's possible. But it's far, far, FAR from likely.
Ole Jerry Lee "The Killer" at work, after his boss put the quasimodo on the coyote. Jerry Lee was a ball munching SOB and no quit in him. Tough as nails. Lived to mix it up with coyote. But without Cal and his rifle backing him up, he'd have had a much shorter life...
- DAA
Well said DAA!
SlickerThanSnot
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Originally Posted By: MCaryYes, you’re off base. A coyote has little chance against a large dog. Odds change dramatically depending on the breed. For example, a wolf can and does kill coyotes easily and a wolf wouldn’t last more than a minute against a pit bull. A lab is a big and strong dog, if it wanted it would probably best a coyote, no problem.
tripod3
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I had a neighbor with a giant schnauzer which intimidated a coyote not 20 ft from me one day.
Numerous times a coyote would come in attempting to lure him out to the waiting pack.
One night he fell for it, he luckily lived after they ripped him to shreds.
This was two different dogs playing two different games.
Numerous times a coyote would come in attempting to lure him out to the waiting pack.
One night he fell for it, he luckily lived after they ripped him to shreds.
This was two different dogs playing two different games.
Originally Posted By: vergOriginally Posted By: MCaryYes, you’re off base. A coyote has little chance against a large dog. Odds change dramatically depending on the breed. For example, a wolf can and does kill coyotes easily and a wolf wouldn’t last more than a minute against a pit bull. A lab is a big and strong dog, if it wanted it would probably best a coyote, no problem.
Think you have that backwards...pitbull wouldn't last one minute against a wolf. Tame animals fight for fun, wild animals fight for survival. Not too many dogs can kill a coyote one vs one. Can they yes...but take a pretty big tough one.
Not even close. Wolf could not survive. A pit bull would eviserate a wolf in minutes. A coyote is a small timid creature. They have little chance against large breed dogs. They would avoid the confrontation unless with a pack.
Think you have that backwards...pitbull wouldn't last one minute against a wolf. Tame animals fight for fun, wild animals fight for survival. Not too many dogs can kill a coyote one vs one. Can they yes...but take a pretty big tough one.
Not even close. Wolf could not survive. A pit bull would eviserate a wolf in minutes. A coyote is a small timid creature. They have little chance against large breed dogs. They would avoid the confrontation unless with a pack.
Coyotejunki
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Quote: and a wolf wouldn’t last more than a minute against a pit bull.
Against an adult wolf? I find that hard to believe, however I can not prove or disprove it.
Against an adult wolf? I find that hard to believe, however I can not prove or disprove it.
Mr. Poppadopalis
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Originally Posted By: MCaryOriginally Posted By: vergOriginally Posted By: MCaryYes, you’re off base. A coyote has little chance against a large dog. Odds change dramatically depending on the breed. For example, a wolf can and does kill coyotes easily and a wolf wouldn’t last more than a minute against a pit bull. A lab is a big and strong dog, if it wanted it would probably best a coyote, no problem.
Think you have that backwards...pitbull wouldn't last one minute against a wolf. Tame animals fight for fun, wild animals fight for survival. Not too many dogs can kill a coyote one vs one. Can they yes...but take a pretty big tough one.
Not even close. Wolf could not survive. A pit bull would eviserate a wolf in minutes. A coyote is a small timid creature. They have little chance against large breed dogs. They would avoid the confrontation unless with a pack.
MCary,
Have you been in the medicine cabinet??
Think you have that backwards...pitbull wouldn't last one minute against a wolf. Tame animals fight for fun, wild animals fight for survival. Not too many dogs can kill a coyote one vs one. Can they yes...but take a pretty big tough one.
Not even close. Wolf could not survive. A pit bull would eviserate a wolf in minutes. A coyote is a small timid creature. They have little chance against large breed dogs. They would avoid the confrontation unless with a pack.
MCary,
Have you been in the medicine cabinet??
Quote:A pit bull would eviserate a wolf in minutes. and your proof of this is what? Have you heard of such a fight before?
As Dave said, dogs aren't making a living in the wild and seldom in a position where they have to fight to survive, coyotes and wolves the opposite.
I grew up around grey hounds, still have family that run grey hounds, and very few of those dogs can handle a coyote one on one. Might hold it down for a while one on one, but kill it. Ain't happenin' And we're talking large stag hounds that far out weigh most every coyote.
As Dave said, dogs aren't making a living in the wild and seldom in a position where they have to fight to survive, coyotes and wolves the opposite.
I grew up around grey hounds, still have family that run grey hounds, and very few of those dogs can handle a coyote one on one. Might hold it down for a while one on one, but kill it. Ain't happenin' And we're talking large stag hounds that far out weigh most every coyote.
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huntschool
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Just sort of an interesting point here... I have seen one kill by a Great Pyrenees on a yote. We were watching some sheep in a pasture when this yote showed up. We were there to call and shoot and the owner had told us the dog was free roamingear old male) so we watched. The dog chased the yote and then turned back to the sheep. When he did, the yote (latter to be identified as a big about 4 year old male) charged at his butt snapping and growling. Well, the big dog put on some speed and the yote missed biting him in the butt by inches, but, That big SOB (dog) tucked his butt and turned so quickly on the yote that he did not have time to gather himself and it was basically over right there. We could hear the crunching and the slapping from the shaking 60 plus yards away. That yote was a bag of pulp when we went to him. Thats a 90 some lb dog against what was likely a 30+ lb yote.
There are killer dogs out there. I would also point out the stock guard dogs of Eastern Europe. The difference being, yea, they are big and love to kill but the owners/Shepard put the biggest meanest spike collars on them (spikes pointing out) you have ever see. There are some videos on Utube with them killing wolves....
There are killer dogs out there. I would also point out the stock guard dogs of Eastern Europe. The difference being, yea, they are big and love to kill but the owners/Shepard put the biggest meanest spike collars on them (spikes pointing out) you have ever see. There are some videos on Utube with them killing wolves....
Ive run coyotes with hounds for 20 years now. I had a walker hound that killed several on his own. Most coyotes around here are not agressive and very passive and shy. When they are cornered at bay they do fight to survive if the dogs are agressive against them. I would say though most or the time coyotes just are cureled up with there head down while the dogs just bark and bay around them until we get there with the shot gun.
Alpha male coyotes are always most agressive but I wouldn't say that any large breed dog wouldn't hold his own against most coyotes.
Alpha male coyotes are always most agressive but I wouldn't say that any large breed dog wouldn't hold his own against most coyotes.
One thing about coyote is that he has stamina that is second to none. I find it amazing how a coyote can run a couple miles being chased by hounds and then have a new turnout of fresh hounds dumped on him and at times still gets away. Most sight hounds are not ran everyday, coyote lives his life on the run.
Most k9s instinctively go for the throat but the quick killing power comes from the dogs with a wide enough mouth to reach around the sternum and crush the internal organs.
I have never seen a one on one, coyote verses dog fight. The ones I've seen mauled did not go passively. Some in less than a minute, others drag out.
Most k9s instinctively go for the throat but the quick killing power comes from the dogs with a wide enough mouth to reach around the sternum and crush the internal organs.
I have never seen a one on one, coyote verses dog fight. The ones I've seen mauled did not go passively. Some in less than a minute, others drag out.
Originally Posted By: huntschoolJust sort of an interesting point here... I have seen one kill by a Great Pyrenees on a yote. We were watching some sheep in a pasture when this yote showed up. We were there to call and shoot and the owner had told us the dog was free roamingear old male) so we watched. The dog chased the yote and then turned back to the sheep. When he did, the yote (latter to be identified as a big about 4 year old male) charged at his butt snapping and growling. Well, the big dog put on some speed and the yote missed biting him in the butt by inches, but, That big SOB (dog) tucked his butt and turned so quickly on the yote that he did not have time to gather himself and it was basically over right there. We could hear the crunching and the slapping from the shaking 60 plus yards away. That yote was a bag of pulp when we went to him. Thats a 90 some lb dog against what was likely a 30+ lb yote.
There are killer dogs out there. I would also point out the stock guard dogs of Eastern Europe. The difference being, yea, they are big and love to kill but the owners/Shepard put the biggest meanest spike collars on them (spikes pointing out) you have ever see. There are some videos on Utube with them killing wolves....
Most of those youtube vids are of dogs vs wolves in European countries where wolves aren't much bigger than a coyote. You guys ever see those pics of that wolf that was living in alaska and became friends with many dogs at a dog park. There is one pic of the black wolf standing with a yellow lab. The size difference is striking. A north american grey wolf is huge..up to 150 lbs and have the strongest bite force of all canines. If anyone thinks a pitbull can take a wolf they are off their rocker! Google some of the stories about bear dogs getting caught up with wolves. They literally pick a dog up off ground and give a crunch. Or simply tear them in half with a shake or pull. Its scary and violent.
There are killer dogs out there. I would also point out the stock guard dogs of Eastern Europe. The difference being, yea, they are big and love to kill but the owners/Shepard put the biggest meanest spike collars on them (spikes pointing out) you have ever see. There are some videos on Utube with them killing wolves....
Most of those youtube vids are of dogs vs wolves in European countries where wolves aren't much bigger than a coyote. You guys ever see those pics of that wolf that was living in alaska and became friends with many dogs at a dog park. There is one pic of the black wolf standing with a yellow lab. The size difference is striking. A north american grey wolf is huge..up to 150 lbs and have the strongest bite force of all canines. If anyone thinks a pitbull can take a wolf they are off their rocker! Google some of the stories about bear dogs getting caught up with wolves. They literally pick a dog up off ground and give a crunch. Or simply tear them in half with a shake or pull. Its scary and violent.