DOJ Heads To Ferguson

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Gee, you mean they haven’t messed it up enough yet? Next phase: Feds dictate ‘changes’ that come from the ‘community’…Serves them right, never should have killed Dindunuffin.


Paula Reid NewsMarch 20, 2015, 12:00 AM
​DoJ heads to Ferguson with a sense of urgency and optimism

Next week, Justice Department lawyers will head to Ferguson, Missouri, to begin discussions about how to reform the city's embattled police department. Earlier this month, the Justice Department issued a searing 100-page report detailing widespread racial bias within the Ferguson police force, and now the city will be asked to decide whether it wants to reform the existing police department or disband it altogether.

Vanita Gupta was named acting head of the Civil Rights Division at the Justice Department in mid-October, and in the first on-camera interview she's granted since her appointment, she talked to CBS News about plans for Ferguson.

Gupta, who came to the Civil Rights Division from the ACLU, feels a "great urgency" to get the reforms into place. "[O]nce we issue our findings, we really don't want to have a system where we know there are unconstitutional practices. We want to be able to reach an agreement to immediately stop them," she said.

Gupta wants the city to have a significant stake in what change looks like. "The Justice Department can't come in and dictate everything. We need to hear from the city and community about what kind of police force they want in town."

Already, the Justice Department's report, while it hasn't exactly dictated everything, has had an immediate impact. Its criticism of Ferguson law enforcement for racial profiling and of the municipal court system for using fines for minor offenses to generate $3 million in revenues has spurred personnel changes. Ferguson's city manager stepped down, as did municipal Judge Ronald Brockmeyer. And two police officers whose emails with racist jokes were part of the report have left the department.

This next part of the process for Ferguson offers the city and community a chance to collaborate, but if the city and the federal government cannot agree on reforms, the Department of Justice can sue and, in that case, could end up forcing change on the city. But Ferguson seems to be embracing the necessary changes, so Gupta is feeling optimistic.

"We were communicating with the city throughout the course of our investigation, and they had already started to take corrective measures. There is much, much more work to be done, but I think that we know that there is a path to reaching an agreement and to be able to produce transformative change," she said.

Ferguson, however, is only one part of a more widespread problem, and it remains to be seen whether changes undertaken there can catalyze change in surrounding counties that have been found to have similar discriminatory policies.

"[O]ur hope is going to be that those neighboring jurisdictions very close to Ferguson, engaging in similar practices, will take note of the reforms we put in place in Ferguson," said Gupta.

She knows that reform, whether collaborative or court-enforced, will take time, as will rebuilding trust between the community and law enforcement. Gupta is heartened by what she's seen so far -- "concrete action with real commitment from the city, from the police department, from the community."

Gupta believes that longer-term reform is the key to turning around the relationship between the community and law enforcement. "I think there is no question that can happen in Ferguson, but we are just beginning now to undertake the work that is going to take to rebuild the trust."

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/doj-heads-to-ferguson-with-a-sense-of-urgency-and-optimism/
 
Quote:Gupta wants the city to have a significant stake in what change looks like. "The Justice Department can't come in and dictate everything. We need to hear from the city and community about what kind of police force they want in town."


Yeah, right!

Regards,
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Personally, I think the entire force should just walk out. And, since the DOJ is criticizing the surrounding counties, they should all refuse to cover for them. And, since they criticized the state, the Highway Patrol should be busy patrolling the highways. And, the Fire Departments should all refuse to enter those communities without police protection. And, just let them burn the whole [beeep] town to the ground, and see how they like the police then.
 
I partially agree with you Rocky, but sadly in a lot of the small towns around St. Louis, like Ferguson, there is corruption. They are known speed traps, and sometimes will lie and give tickets. The towns need the money so it is overlooked by the higher ups and I would presume encouraged.
 
Smaller towns all run like that CJ, around Ferguson is no exception. Little town I live in up in ND, the deputy was forever being called on the carpet for not writing enough tickets. Sheriff accused him of trying to make friends, so he could sell more guns in his gun shop. So he sold the gun shop. He still didn't write enough tickets to suit the Sheriff! He finally told them to go pound sand, he had 25+ years in; retired, and went to work for the railroad.

Just had a small town down here; Waldo, Fl... The entire police force was disbanded by the City Council, after the Attorney General's office, ran them through the wringer for the police having ticket quotas, and enthusiastically enforcing every little minor infraction, to the point of making things up occasionally. http://www.news4jax.com/news/future-of-waldo-police-to-be-decided/28328536

North Dakota Highway Patrol was just reported for having "ticket goals", according to their commandant. They're supposed to be writing XX tickets for speeding, XX tickets for DUI, XX tickets for non-moving violations, (the list was quite long)... http://watchdog.org/204916/highway-patrol/

If they don't make their goal for the month, they get to go talk to the commander, to determine what prevented them from reaching their monthly goal, and how they might address that problem, to make sure they attain their goal in the future. But they don't have quotas, oh no, they simply have "ticket goals".

That practice is nothing out of the ordinary; suggesting it is however racially biased, is B_S_. Blacks comprise the majority of the population. Blacks are 3 times as likely to commit a crime. Blacks are more likely to be repeat offenders. SO... Who would you stop more frequently??? If your ear itches, do you scratch your knee? It isn't profiling, it isn't racial targeting, it's called doing their jobs. And, the DOJ couldn't prove anything in the Michael Brown case, so they're nit picking, trying to make the natives happy, and playing their racial profiling game of picking on predominantly white police forces, in predominantly black neighborhoods, for picking on the poor black didndunuffins.



 
I'm not making this a black/white issue. Common sense would dictate that there are more blacks who drive through Ferguson, so all things being equal, more blacks would get tickets.

Corruption is corruption, whether lipstick is put on the pig or not, it's still a pig. BTW, "pig" was not intended as an insult to cops.

Coincidentally, officer Wilson was from the Jennings PD which was disbanded because of the crap they pulled. He lost his job like several others, then went to Ferguson.

My best friend used to work for SLPD. He was in a pretty bad area in the north side of the City. I asked him about writing tickets for rolling stops, etc... His response was that there were so many that just blew through stop signs and red lights that that wasn't even an issue in his case.
 
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You're not; but the DOJ is. And, they're doing so to appease the masses. They're doing so in typical Obama/Holder racism fashion.
 
OK, I agree with you. As long as I can remember, back into the 60's when I was a little boy, the gov't has been making it about race. I'm sick of it too. When is it not "Whitey's" fault anymore?
 
There won't be any free-bies for "Whitey" when they are the minority.

Remember the blacks were captured and made slaves by their own people, then sold to whitey who sold them over here, and they was slaves for 400 years. I got the 400 years from Louis Farrakan
 
Originally Posted By: CoyotejunkiThere won't be any free-bies for "Whitey" when they are the minority.

Remember the blacks were captured and made slaves by their own people, then sold to whitey who sold them over here, and they was slaves for 400 years. I got the 400 years from Louis Farrakan

Uhmmm... but they weren't just sold to white folks! The first slave owner in the US was himself black!! In fact many slave owners in the US were black.

https://www.google.com/search?ie=UTF-8&q=black%20slave%20owners%20in%20the%20US&gws_rd=ssl


Then there is also the small matter of white slaves...

http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-irish-slave-trade-the-forgotten-white-slaves/31076


But blacks want to set all of that aside, so they can blame all of their problems on white folks! And, scream about how badly they have been treated throughout history. Fact is, they've had every chance whites have had, and for the last 50 years, the deck has been stacked in their corner, and they still don't succeed.

 
Originally Posted By: Rocky1Originally Posted By: CoyotejunkiThere won't be any free-bies for "Whitey" when they are the minority.

Remember the blacks were captured and made slaves by their own people, then sold to whitey who sold them over here, and they was slaves for 400 years. I got the 400 years from Louis Farrakan

Uhmmm... but they weren't just sold to white folks! The first slave owner in the US was himself black!! In fact many slave owners in the US were black.

https://www.google.com/search?ie=UTF-8&q=black%20slave%20owners%20in%20the%20US&gws_rd=ssl


Then there is also the small matter of white slaves...

http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-irish-slave-trade-the-forgotten-white-slaves/31076


But blacks want to set all of that aside, so they can blame all of their problems on white folks! And, scream about how badly they have been treated throughout history. Fact is, they've had every chance whites have had, and for the last 50 years, the deck has been stacked in their corner, and they still don't succeed.



Most Blacks don't care about the truth, even though they are always spouting off that saying..."the truth shall set you free". They set on their arses and let the gangs roam free through their neighborhoods, selling drugs and killing people, all the while keeping their mouths shut. But, when a White person kills a Black person, no matter how justified the killing was, they raise total Helll and take to streets rioting. Long ago, I came to the conclusion that the races are different from each other, no matter how much multi-culturalism is crammed down our throats, and no matter how many lies the politicians spread in trying to make us all "one" people. We aren't, and haven't been since the beginning of time.
 
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