EBR build options?

huntnfish08

huntnfish08

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I've been looking at ordering an AR15 kit. All the options listed have me wondering what is considered a worthy investment when ordering.

Do chrome dipped Bolts and carriers offer any advantages worth their price? Jewel 2-stage triggers?

My logic, /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif The M16 I was issued had no jewel trigger, or specialized BCA and yet I could fire 40/40 at the range with it. Upper and lower slop that you wouldn't believe. Zeroing took just a few shots and grouped quite well, although zeroed at 25meters.

If I order a ULTRA basic kit and just do a trigger job /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused1.gif and fool around with reloading could I end up with a tackdriver that feeds and fires flawlessly?

I would hope so. So this is my build plan.

Essential Arms OD Lower $ 96
Model 1 Varmint $535
20" fluted 1x9 ExtraHeavy, +$ 50
A2 Butt Stock
Flattop Upper
picatinny rail Gas block
FF handguard + swivel stud +$ 10
Std. BCA
Std. Charging handle
Std. A2 pistol grip
Std. Trigger Group
Furniture color, green +$ 20

Total price = $711 dollars plus S&H

Am I wrong to assume this will be a sub MOA rig?

Edited for Stripped lower and J&T swapped for Model 1 kit
 
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One other thing. When I look at a lot of guys AR builds their scopes line up with the charging handle. when I shoot I like to keep my nose tight to the charging handle. I would think this would result in the scope having to be moved forward a little further than most. Does anyone else have their rifle set-up this way. I would like to see it..
 
I have a chromed bolt/carrier in my DPMS competition AR and standard bolt/carriers in my others and can't tell any difference in them, with the exception that my DPMS has many more rounds through it that either of the others and no signs of wear. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused1.gif

As far as a trigger, I have Rock River, Chip McCormick (drop-in), and JP Enterprises and all work well for me...While it might be nice to have some of the more expensive units, I'm not in the 'benchrest' class of shooters and can't personally justify the extra expense.. However, some will say that the extra expense is worth the quality and get it the first time...Who am I to argue with that logic. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif
 
I just built a VERY evil black rifle! In my opinion, you could skip the bull barrel-you don't need all that weight and you won't be shooting a mag-full when predator hunting.

What I did was use a DPMS lower, an LPK (lower parts kit) from RB precision, including an RRA two stage trigger, an RRA collapsible stock (because I like 'em), an ergo grip, Magpul enhanced trigger guard, and viola-instant lower! The upper half I bought assembled and is pretty wicked-a 16" stainless heavy barrel, midlength gas, with a free float sampson 4 rail rifle length handguard. YHM flip up sights, and the Eotech 512 will arrive this week! A little heavy but not bad at all!

For scopes, there are lots of mounting options, but you might plan on spending some bucks to get it the way you want it. Larue makes some good scope mounts that move the scope far enough forward that you can still pick your nose with the charging handle.

Go check out AR15.com, or maybe not..it's a bad place! Bad! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif
 
Although it may not be correct, here is my way of thinking. The bolt and bolt carrier for all practical purposes are replaceable parts in an AR. Definately easier to replace than an upper receiver. I would rather my bolt and carrier be as soft as the receiver rails or softer so that they didn't wear out the upper first. As for scope height over bore. I mounted mine as low as I could get by with. I now regret it. Yes, my rifle is easily a half MOA gun or less, but I now realize that the flat cheek peice of an A-2 stock is not like the comb of a traditional rifle. A heads up position is more comfortable with an AR type rifle than the low cheek weld. My problem is that with both eyes open my target pictures don't line up. My head has to lay across the stock at a 45 degree angle putting my right and left eyes on a different horizontal plane. This can make for a tough target acquisition when the right eye is looking at a 3 o'clock position and the left is looking at 11 o'clock instead of 9 o'clock /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smiliesmack.gif. I don't know about you, but I can move my eyes toward each other, and maybe even away from each other, but one up one down is out of the question /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif.

A badger style charging handle extension will clear your scope if mounted low. I did it for mine, just be aware that when slung over the right shoulder and barrel up in the field, the extended handle will snag clothing jarring it loose from it's locked position.
 
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well if you shoot nose to charging handle you'll be needing some set up to get the scope a good ways forward. For 1 piece mounts Larue has a couple mounts to move a scope that far forward. I don't think Armalites mount will get a scope that far forward unless you run it past the flattop over the handguard,wich some guy's do. I can get by with the Armalite and the scope as far forward as it will go in the mount most of the time.

Or your looking at something like an RRA scout rail. WOA makes a nice scout rail with 15 MOA built in also. There are others like GG&G.

I don't know how much walking you do but,you may want to consider a 20 over the 24. I don't think you gain that much FPS in a 24" tube to make it worth the weight. If your mostly punching paper a 24 is probably ok.
 
The only change I would do is the twist I would go 1-9 or better yet 1-8 that gives you the option of a heavy bullet and will still shoot the lt wt ones pretty well.
 
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The only change I would do is the twist I would go 1-9 or better yet 1-8 that gives you the option of a heavy bullet and will still shoot the lt wt ones pretty well.



I concur and I would consider the 20" barrel instead of the 24" for predators. You will be happier with less weight..
 
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I would hope so. So this is my build plan.

Essential Arms OD Lower $ 96
Model 1 Varmint $535
20" fluted 1x9 ExtraHeavy, +$ 50
A2 Butt Stock
Flattop Upper
picatinny rail Gas block
FF handguard + swivel stud +$ 10
Std. BCA
Std. Charging handle
Std. A2 pistol grip
Std. Trigger Group
Furniture color, green +$ 20

Total price = $711 dollars plus S&H

Am I wrong to assume this will be a sub MOA rig?

Edited for Stripped lower and J&T swapped for Model 1 kit



For a calling rig, I would prob. go with a lighter barrel profile than the exta heavy fluted...that sounds....heavy to me. Also I'd go with a 1x8 twist.

I'd start out with a good trigger or at least a better trigger than the military type that's standard on most ARs. I have a JP in one and just the JP springs in another, either of those is worlds better than a standard.

Gas block, I'd get a single rail so I could mount a backup iron front sight but I wouldn't get a 4 rail, I have one of those and don't ever use the other rails, just extra weight.

Otherwise things look good. One thing about an AR (at least for me) I always end up doing something else to it after I get it. They are pretty easy to sink money into.
 
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Essential Arms OD Lower $ 96
Model 1 Varmint $535
20" fluted 1x9 ExtraHeavy, +$ 50
A2 Butt Stock
Flattop Upper
picatinny rail Gas block
FF handguard + swivel stud +$ 10
Std. BCA
Std. Charging handle
Std. A2 pistol grip
Std. Trigger Group
Furniture color, green +$ 20

Total price = $711 dollars plus S&H

Am I wrong to assume this will be a sub MOA rig?

Edited for Stripped lower and J&T swapped for Model 1 kit


That is almost the exact same AR that I ordered (should be here tomorrow) minus the funiture color, I added a badger tactical latch, I got the 1x8 twist, and a sure grip. I bought Model 1's one piece mount for my scope too. I'll let you know how everything works out.
 
Top right is my pdog rig, built on a J&T Dist kit, and using a JP Rifles single stage trigger, below it is one of the groups I have shot with it. The rifle has the capability, it's all up to the operator after that.

Three-ARs-D.jpg
 
cjg beef: Make sure to post some pictures of it. And let me know how it feels weight wise.

Are your guys barrels chambered in 223rem or 5.56Nato??
 


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