Electronic calling advice

Flesher

Flesher

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For those of you that use E-calls and have success with them, what volume works best for you? I've had fox pro's and Lucky Duck calls for the last 6 or 8 years, and have yet to have any of them consistently call in much. I usually get tired of blank stands, and resort to my hand calls, which produce. What is the secret? My newest call is the LD Revalution. Which I like the sounds, but have not called in anything yet with it. I have actually had coyotes run away from it. I use a hand call and they come in. I'm doing something wrong. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Thanks
 
Foxpro call run 15-20 for volume. It won’t sound loud to you because the speakers are directional but coyotes and foxes can hear it from a long long ways away. The only time I use full volume is for howls or locaters. Heavy winds add a little more volume and when they coming in sometimes lower the volume. Snow goose hunters have learned all this a long time ago.
 
I prefer hand calls for my own reason, e-calls get overplayed by the masses and render them almost useless in some areas.
Compare to the volume of your handcall.
Remember you are playing to an animal that can hear a mouse fart under 2 feet of snow, so start low and move up.
Then the setup guidelines apply, possible you're not seeing them til after they got a good whiff and are leaving.
 
I’ve used all level of volumes and had coyotes come in. It doesn’t take much volume on the quite days without wind. I’ve watched a coyote come in from 600+ yards when I could barely hear the sound of a caller that was only a couple yards away.
I’ve also used full volume on my fox pro and have had at least a couple dozen coyotes come in with the volume at 40(max volume in my fox pro)

On windy days I’ll often use more volume. On dead calm days I’ll often not have the volume greater than 20(50% volume).

Overall I have more confidence in my hand calls than I do the e callers but I’ve had some of my best days calling while using e callers and they also get the coyotes to focus not directly on my location.
 
Thanks for the input. I think a guy can get carried away with all that volume. You can only call so loud with a hand call. Also I think the repetition of an e-call doesn't sound as natural as a hand call. I hunt a lot of public land when I go out west, so I think they hear a lot of electronic sounds compared to private land. Still it would be nice to see it actually work.
I've tried running a prey sound and end with a pup distress. Never had anything come into a pup distress. Seems like everyone has good luck with it.
Guess I should just keep working with it if I want to succeed. But I definitely prefer my hand calls.
 
Thanks for the input. I think a guy can get carried away with all that volume. You can only call so loud with a hand call. Also I think the repetition of an e-call doesn't sound as natural as a hand call. I hunt a lot of public land when I go out west, so I think they hear a lot of electronic sounds compared to private land. Still it would be nice to see it actually work.
I've tried running a prey sound and end with a pup distress. Never had anything come into a pup distress. Seems like everyone has good luck with it.
Guess I should just keep working with it if I want to succeed. But I definitely prefer my hand calls.
 
Here are a few things I have learned from calling. I use a fox pro fusion and hunt public land with many other hunters. I still find success more often than not.

1. Less is more. All you need to do in most cases is catch their interest enough to come check out whats going on. The more calling you do the more sound being made that could get him to change his mind.

2. Start low on the volume and work your way up. This is especially important on days that you can get into a spot very quietly. often times coyotes can be just over the next hill or behind cover. If you blast something loud right of the bat, you likely will scare them away.

3. Don't be afraid to try something unconventional. Try some different sounds than the typical coyote vocals and rabbit. Last year I found baby porcupine to be a hot sound. I was in a slump and figured why not try it. I killed 5 in 2 days on that sound alone.

Last and most important thing to keep in mind is, CALL WHERE THERE ARE COYOTES! do some looking around for sign and figure out where they are at. this is easy with a fresh snow. Look for areas with lots of tracks. I have found spots before snow falls that look good to my eye. Come back later when there is snow and there are no tracks for miles. sometimes I find spots that look like they wouldn't be there but theres tracks all over the place.

I hope this helps in some way. Best of luck!
 
yoteslayer, Thanks for the reminder of having the call blasting,I can get carried away most times.I have a fusion also,how do you use the speakers? I used to use an extra speaker but i quit using it because of setup scent and more noise.I hunt thick woods so I just use the horn speaker.do you use 1 or 2 speakers? Thanks
 
Flesher,Sorry If I butted in on your post,I just found your post so interesting.and yoteslayes post was a wakeup call.My thoughts are just use the powerful horn speaker on the fusion,because handcallers have 1 speaker < there mouth> and most call in more critters then I will in 5 lifetimes.these wisconsin coyotes at least where I hunt dont break out in the open till the last minute of light.Flesher do the coyotes in your neck of the woods act the same? Thanks
 
Tomahawk, in my home area, there are so few coyotes that if you get one to respond every 20 sits, you are doing good. They do come in if you get near one. That being said, I like hunting in Kansas, Colorado, and Arizona. At least there is a larger population to work with in those states. I'm at the age where I can travel more, so I do. We do have the advantage of more open fields around cover on this side of the creek, so they have to come out to see what's going on.
Good luck.
 
flesher 20 sits are about right for me to,these critters around here are tough and travel alot. some of the members here have pictures of there coyote kills that have more coyotes in them then I have seen deer hunting with gun and bow for 55 years. Good luck
 
Last year I tracked a pair of coyote into 50x100 yard weed patch about 200 yards from a township road. I was downwind about 300 yards away, called but no response. I backed out and spent the day spotting and stalking shot 2. About 1/2 hr before sunset I went back in on my morning tracks. Sat in the same place, with the ecaller in the same place. The wind was lighter, slightly more west in it. Less than a minute, both coyote came out trotting directly to the caller,used same sound sequence. Shot both. Sometimes they just don't move when YOU think they should.
 
You Wisconsin guys might be surprised how many coyotes are around if you start night hunting. There’s so much roadkill up there I doubt a coyote ever goes hungry. I’ve called @ 35 the last 5 weeks in n Illinois which this time of year is plowed fields.
 


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